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I'm planning to buy a graphics card soon for Battlefield 3 (OK...it's been a while, and I actually pre-ordered BF3 so I've been waiting ~4 months for a GPU...O.O), and I've been trying to decide which one to buy. I've come up with two candidates: the Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 with 1GB of GDDR5 or the HIS Radeon HD 6950 with 2GB of GDDR5. Price is a big factor here: The 6870 is only 144.99 while the 6950 is ~270. I can afford both of them, but I am a cheap person. Another factor that comes in to place is the fact that I use a 27" HDMI monitor. I'm not sure if the 6870 can hold up my monitor (LOL...I used to use a 17" monitor. I could play Minecraft on full screen maxed with FPS's of around 100, until my GPU took an arrow to the knee and I used a 27" monitor. I can only play Minecraft restored-down now.)

I'm looking forward to a minimum FPS of 40 and High-Ultra settings on BF3. Maybe an average FPS of around 50. Which GPU would you guys recommend?
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решение (solution)

 

Because of these factors, I propose the Sapphire HD6870 1GB:-

1. You want the card to be as cheap as possible (price is a big factor)

2. Ultra Setting is not an absolute must as you are willing to use High

3. You take 40 fps as min and 50 fps as ave

4. Size of monitor (17'' vs 27'') is not the main issue but the resolution is.  Your Samsung S27A350H has 1920x1080.

 

See the red line (for HD6870) in the following chart:-

amd cards bf3.JPG

(chart source:- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-8.html)

 

And, if you can find a 2GB version of the HD6870 (eg by Powercolor, Visiontek or XFX), it might be yet another option.

 

Lastly, this is for SP only.  If you want to play MP and use a full 64-player map, then it changes everything and the HD6950 2GB is preferred.


Edited by windfire - 2/1/12 at 6:52pm
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Since I want to play a lot of multiplayer and squeeze out my sixty bucks of money out of Battlefield 3 and play it to death, I'm going with the 6950.
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Quote:
 The 6870 is only 144.99 while the 6950 is ~270. I can afford both of them, but I am a cheap person. Another factor that comes in to place is the fact that I use a 27" HDMI monitor. I'm not sure if the 6870 can hold up my monitor (LOL...I used to use a 17" monitor. I could play Minecraft on full screen maxed with FPS's of around 100, until my GPU took an arrow to the knee and I used a 27" monitor. I can only play Minecraft restored-down now.)

I'm looking forward to a minimum FPS of 40 and High-Ultra settings on BF3. Maybe an average FPS of around 50. Which GPU would you guys recommend?

 

Screen size does not matter but resolution does.

 

This is cheap 6950 2GB vs. 7970 3GB. 

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@Ken1649 That is true, I switched from a 720p 17" to 1080p 27". Good point.
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I second the 6870, or even a 6850. 6850s overclock very nicely, I got mine to a 910mhz, and 1110 memory clock. That is basically a 6870, for a lot cheaper. But keep in mind the silicone lottery. If you dont mind dropping the cash, go for the 6870. And I do know Russian without using a translator.
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@skaterat Do video cards lose their warranty once overclocked? I'm not a very good overclocker in the first place (I can't seem to get my 1100T to 4GHz, so I imagine having the same conflicts with video card overclocking.)
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I am not sure, it depends on what brand and where you buy it. I got mine from microcenter, and they have their own warranty that isn't voided if I overclock. But, overclocking isn't very hard, and its hard to burn your card. Just push it a bit, try to run something like 3d mark11, and if it crashes, then turn it down a bit. A good Asus card will never get too hot, unless under super high loads and your case is not well ventilated.
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