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Poll Results: Which Color Version are you buying

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    White/Black
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    Black/black
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post #10821 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

Yeah, thanks.
so what do I have to do with my Switch, that a UT60 will fit perfectly with push/pull? rolleyes.gif

possibly shave the rear push fan to clear the 8 pin at the top of the motherboard. notch the top of the case two of the ports ( Darlene I didn't even think about that!) oh well a larger drill bit will take care of that.
post #10822 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

Yeah, thanks.
so what do I have to do with my Switch, that a UT60 will fit perfectly with push/pull? rolleyes.gif


You either aren't paying attention, or the language barrier is cropping up, we just can't tell you exactly what you'll have to do because there are a number of variables involved that remain unanswered and make each build combination unique.

Push - pull setups with ~60mm thick rads on the switch 810 are all a crapshoot when it comes to exactly what needs to be done, as there are multiple variable involved.

The UT-60 with p-p has been done alot.

It's not a mod intensive install, but it depends on your choice of fans, and more importantly the location and size of the VRM heatsinks and 8 pin EPS connector on the mobo, and what top panel your particular 810 has been made with.

If you're planning on one of those 'thermal armor" mobos, forget a 420 period.

For about any other mobo:

Be prepared to notch the top panel for the top rear port plugs

Be prepared to drill 8 new holes for the center and rear fans

Be prepared to trim (dremel) a couple mm off the edge of (usually) one fan to clear the 8 pin connector and VRM heatsink


If those three mods don't work for you, then get a 360 and you'll have about as painless, and mod free install, as you can get.


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 2/2/13 at 5:47am
post #10823 of 13812
Sorry, I dont have a dremel.
i think I'll have to go with 360 rad :/
And i think my board ( MSI Z77 MPower) isn't a good choice for push-Pull, because it has really big VRM-Heatsinks.
Maybe i'll go with Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 360mm and Phobya G-Changer 240.

EDIT: I found some fans for a 420 rad
http://www.aquatuning.us/product_info.php/info/p13524_Corsair-Air-Series-AF140-Quiet-Edition--140x140x25-.html
Edited by DrWaikiki - 2/2/13 at 6:22am
post #10824 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

Sorry, I dont have a dremel.
i think I'll have to go with 360 rad :/
And i think my board ( MSI Z77 MPower) isn't a good choice for push-Pull, because it has really big VRM-Heatsinks.
Maybe i'll go with Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 360mm and Phobya G-Changer 240.

At the worst, you could just put 5 fans on it instead of 6 and have 2 sections in "push/pull" and just 1 section in "push".

I've tried it all to get my GA-Z77X-UP7 motherboard (which has a huge heat sink) in "push/pull" in an RX360. First I left 1 fan off, then I shaved one fan with a razor blade, then I said to heck with it and used a grinder to grind the rolled over edges on the top of the case. ALL work, it's just a matter of how much work you want to do and the trade off on looks.



5 fans only.




Notching 1 fan where it hits the heat sink.






Or taking the top off and grinding down (and spraying a bit of paint on the inside again) the rolled over edges.






Will get you to where you want to go. It all depends on how little (just use 3 or 5 fans) work you want to do or shave 1 fan and have notice a little imperfection (in my case) or grind down the top and paint to get all 6.
post #10825 of 13812
I think I'll shave the fan too. But how have you done that?
Off-Topic: Your spraying looks really awesome. ^^
post #10826 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

I think I'll shave the fan too. But how have you done that?
Off-Topic: Your spraying looks really awesome. ^^

Thank you.

I did it with a Dremel because I have one, but if you take your time, you can easily do it with an Xacto knife/utility knife/single edge razor.

Again, you MIGHT not have to do it though. You really won't know until you try. Some motherboards do not have an issue, some do.

Also, I was using the XSPC RX360 radiator, which is a total of 62mm thick. I don't personally own one (I own the Monsta 360) but everything I read says that the UT60 360 is only 60mm thick, so you MIGHT not have to shave anything.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/2/13 at 6:43am
post #10827 of 13812
Then I'll do it in this way.
And which fans should I use?

EDIT: I'll look if I have to shave a fan. And do I need a 2nd 240 rad in bottom for my system?

Intel Core i5 3570K XSPC Raystorm
Gigabyte HD 7950 WF3 @ EK FC 7950 EN Nickel Plexi
8GB Patriot Viper 3 IEM DDR3-2133
MSI Z77 MPower
NZXT Switch 810 ( biggrin.gif)
Edited by DrWaikiki - 2/2/13 at 6:55am
post #10828 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

Then I'll do it in this way.
And which fans should I use?

Well, originally I started out with my favorite fan for the RX360 radiator, the Gentle Typhoon AP-14. I find that at 1450RPM, the RX360 will dump a lot of heat in "push/pull" mode while not being overly loud. On another rig, I had 3 RX360's with 18 of those fans, and surprisingly it wasn't loud at all, even at 2' away. As strange as it sounds (no pun intended) the 2 D5 pumps are louder than the 18 AP-14 fans.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

You know you got computers on the brain when you are laying in bed at 2 in the morning and suddenly think to yourself ... OMG, how loud will this thing be? Should I have ordered 18 AP-13 or AP-12 fans instead?

Well, after running some numbers, it really doesn't matter much. Pretty much the most noise will be generated from the 2 MCP655 pumps, which puts out about 33dBA each.

9 800RPM fans AP-12 @ 9dBA = 18.54dBA (36.08dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 28.25 CFM per = ~120 Watts @ 10C
18 800RPM fans AP-12 @ 9dBA = 21.52dBA (36.15dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 28.25 CFM per = ~140 Watts @ 10C

9 1150RPM fans AP-13 @ 16dBA = 25.54dBA (36.37dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 37 CFM per = ~160 Watts @ 10C
18 1150RPM fans AP-13 @ 16dBA = 28.52dBA (36.72dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 37 CFM per = ~190 Watts @ 10C

9 1450RPM fans AP-14 @ 21dBA = 30.54dBA (37.08dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 50 CFM per = ~215 Watts @ 10C
18 1450RPM fans AP-14 @ 21dBA = 33.52dBA (37.94dBA w/2 MCP655 pumps) = 50 CFM per = ~260 Watts @ 10C


For those that don't already have this site, you might want to book mark it. It is simply wonderful for calculating noise.

Combining decibels - up to 10 levels
Combining decibels − up to 30 levels


Before I settled on the AP-14's without a fan controller, I ran 6 AP-30 fans with a speed controller. These 3000 RPM fans were OBSCENELY loud at full speed. So after doing a bunch of "how loud is this speed" test, I found that personally, I barely noticed the noise around 1300-1400 RPM, so I went with the 1450 RPM fan and just plug them in and don't bother adjusting the speed.

Others will say go with the slightly faster AP-15 fans and use a fan controller to adjust the speed. That works too.

For that build you see, I switched out the AP-14 and went with the matching orange with the Cougar fans. They work nicely.


Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/2/13 at 6:58am
post #10829 of 13812
O.o. Those Gentle Typhoon Fans are really ugly tongue.gif
What do you think about those fans? http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p7929_Noiseblocker-NB-BlackSilentPRO-PK2---140x140x25mm--.html
post #10830 of 13812
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Originally Posted by DrWaikiki View Post

O.o. Those Gentle Typhoon Fans are really ugly tongue.gif
What do you think about those fans? http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p7929_Noiseblocker-NB-BlackSilentPRO-PK2---140x140x25mm--.html

I haven't personally used them, but I hear good things about them.

1dBA quieter than the AP-14.
Almost x2 the current draw (but still pretty low) as the AP-14, which may be of concern if you put on a speed controller.
7 m³/h more air flow than the AP-14.
But the only thing I'd be concerned with is that it has a much lower static pressure than the AP-14 or AP-15. A LOT less.

Maybe in "push/pull" it won't be that big of a concern. Maybe someone who has them can answer better.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 2/2/13 at 7:12am
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