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Yeah...
ok......
that is what this forum and thread is for. Asking questions and discussing the Switch 810. I am not going to comb through 638 pages to find my answer. I have already searched and read several 810 build logs but as we all know there is a TON of them.
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If it's so irritating to you then simply ignore my post and reply to someone else. Thanks thumb.gif

I've drawn a diagram you might find helpful in the future. There are approximately 6 people in here that answer questions regularly and 25 new people a day asking the same thing as the people before them. Unless you're new to the internet, I'm sure you've been told to use the search before. There is even a sticky in the first post that answers your question with no searching at all. biggrin.gif

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You're going to hear the "loop order doesn't make any difference" mantra a lot, it isn't really true, if you look at all the ramifications of different loop orders. Loop order, while not always making a real big difference in cpu/gpu temps, does have other effects:
As an example, if you put the res after the cpu/gpu, and the rad after the res and pump, then you are effectively warehousing hot water in the res, heating up everything around it and having less heat left in the water for the rad to remove. Alternatively, if you run the res after the rad, then you're warehousing cooler water, the rad having removed it more efficiently because of the higher differential to ambient. It's all about getting heat out of the case as fast as possible. And that doesn't even get into the fact that pumping cooler water is more efficient than pumping hotter water.
Another example, and germane to your case, is that it always makes more sense to put the smallest heat sources first in the loop, as they will have little impact on the greater ones, but not the other way around.
To illustrate, if you have water cooling on your memory, as cool as ram runs without WC, if you have it after any other heat source, you'll make it hotter than if it wasn't WC'd at all.
The mosfet block is similar, it makes much less heat than the cpu, but more than memory, so running water past the mosfets is going to heat the water to the cpu far less than the other way around.
Sometimes a little more tubing does make for a more efficient loop.
I'd run: res > pump > mosfets > cpu > rad > res . . . and so on
Darlene

Thanks for the insight. So going from pump > Rad > mosfets > cpu > res > pump wouldn't cool as good as going from res> pump > mosfet >cpu> rad >res. I get that your getting the heat out and pushing it directly to the radiator to be cooled and then back to res Im just wondering if my current setup is wrong.
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It's less efficient at evacuating heat from the sytem. (right or wrong is a subjective evaluation) You are, however, warehousing water at its hottest in your res, where it has its greatest chance to soak out into everything around it, drives, mobo, case, etc.
Heat transfer rate is influenced by the temp differntial between what's hotter, and what's cooler.
A hotter rad gives up more btu/hr than a cooler one. A hotter res gives up more btu/hr than a cooler one. What it's giving it up to is what makes the difference.
The rad gives it up to air moving thru it and out of the case. The res gives it up to everything physically around it and somewhat to the airflow past it.
I prefer to have as much heat as possible exchanged from the rad to the air moving thru it and out of the case.
Darlene

Thank you very much this makes alot of sense! Hottest water will be held in the rad and the res which is bad when I get my mosfet block in I will change my loop I just don't want tubes running across my motherboard too much but oh well. I'll think of something hehe:thumb:
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I want to have the UT60 (or any other 60mm thick) rad in the top, push/pull. Does the RIVE fit natively? If not, is there any way to make it fit? If there is no absolute way, what's the next best motherboard for overclocking/features (the MSI BB-Xpower II?)?

Thanks!

EDIT: Also, here's my proposed build thread, please help if you can!
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Ah, now I understand with the pwm splitters it wil be ok. will us the pwm of the mainboard and the power from the psu? Any good advice for pwm fans ( looking for matching with gun metal switch)thumb.gif
I would use a 3 fan splitter for each side of the 360 rad (they get all their power from the motherboard no PSU, this is what I have for just pull fans and it works fine) then if you really needed the 240 rad (which you don't if you only have 1 graphics card) then you could use a Gelid 4 fan pwm splitter. This one does require an additional molex connection tho. As far as PWM fans, noctua nf-f12s are obviously good choices, and IMO they wouldn't look too bad in your set up. You actually don't need pwm fans to control the rpm, so you could do all of this with corsair sp120's if you wanted.
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To add to the loop order conversation, I think the differences are going to be pretty minimal. For tubing routing purposes and asthetics (I plan to add a FrozenQ res to the mix), mine is going RES -> PUMP -> 240 RAD -> GPU -> 360 RAD -> CPU -> back to RES. The temps are exactly the same on my CPU as they were back in my 650D days of RES -> PUMP -> CPU -> 240 RAD -> back to RES.

I have a hot room most of the time. On a good night, my GTX 670 is idling between 27-32 degrees and I haven't seen it get above 45 degrees on load yet. CPU is idling anywhere from 27-36 degrees depending on the core and on load I have not seen it get higher than the low 50's. Will need to run some more stress testing though and start doing some overclocking. Also, I have not had a chance to see what it is at in the heat of the day.
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Should I tighten further?
It's getting a bit tougher, but I can keep on going.
Is there any chance of cutting into the tube?
The one on the bottom is a reference for max tightness.

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