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I'm looking around newegg.com for building a custom computer, and I'm slowly compiling a list of things I need to buy. The problem is I have no clue what motherboard to get that is cost-effective. I'm looking for a cpu with 1.6-2.2ghz, (mine right now only has 233mhz, so I'm upgrading) with 2-4 slots of ram. (Preferably 240-pin DDR, or the 184, no difference to me, I don't really know which is better) The HDD can be anywhere from 40gigs to 80 gigs. (I know a few 160's that sell for 55, but I don't need that much memory)
I've already got everything else that I need, except the psu and cooler (unless my current one will work, but I don't know what make/model it is, so I"ll have to do my own... testing...)
I'm trying to keep this beneath 250, but is that even reasonable?

So what mobo/cpu should I buy, and how much? The best I could find were 70-85 dollars for a 3-4 ram slot, and 2.0ish Ghz. I'm just going to use it as a media-type of computer, but not a gaming one. I've already got one for that purpose (that is currently plagued with a virus thanks to the stupid family).
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Eh, I just realized... would it be possible to get a 1.6GHz low-end processor, and have a 2x multiplier or something? What kind of mobo would I need for that though... (I hate being such a newbie, but I learn quickly)
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Well, ghz arn't the only thing things that determine CPU performance.

For example, a 1.8ghz Pentium 4 is only half as fast as a 1.8ghz Athlon 64 3000+. And a 1.8ghz Core 2 Duo will slaughter a 1.8ghz Athlon 64. Opperations per second help determine speed.

Pentium 4's have 6 opps/sec (multiply the opps by the ghz) 6 x 3.0ghz = 18

Athlon 64's have 9 opps/sec (multiply the opps by the ghz) 9 x 1.8ghz = 16

Core 2 Duo's have 11 opps/sec (multiply the opps by ghz) 11 x 1.83ghz = 20.13

If you are just looking for a basic media computer, a 3.0ghz P4 or 1.8ghz-2.0ghz Athlon 64 would suffice. Probably no need for a dual core computer (like Athlon X2, Pentium D, or Core 2 DUo.)

You'd want a bare minimum of 512mbs of ram, 1gb-2g is best.

You'd probably have to pay atleast 350-400 dollars.
    
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What is your price range?
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post #6 of 45
Ok, my first take, low budget rig, with a low-end, but decent, mobo, and a reasonable CPU, 512MB RAM (1 stick, so easy to add another):

Total: $254.95 +$12.84 shipping = $267.79

PS: the ops per cycle for the Core 2 Duo is false. The architecture of that CPU is so complex, that it cannot be summarized in an ops/cycle number.
    
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post #7 of 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenHagerty
What is your price range?
He said he would like to keep it under $250 if possible. Its possible but it will be a basic, average pc.
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post #8 of 45
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Originally Posted by Chozart
Ok, my first take, low budget rig, with a low-end, but decent, mobo, and a reasonable CPU, 512MB RAM (1 stick, so easy to add another):

MoBo: PC CHIPS A11G V1.0 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 mATX $54.99

PSU: FSP Group (Fortron Source) ATX400-PA, 400W $36.99

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Orleans 1.8GHz Socket AM2 $69.99

RAM: Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 533 $49.99

HDD: HITACHI Deskstar 80GB $42.99

Total: $254.95 +$12.84 shipping = $267.79

PS: the ops per cycle for the Core 2 Duo is false. The architecture of that CPU is so complex, that it cannot be summarized in an ops/cycle number.

How is that mobo for overclocking? For that price, it would make a good folding only rig.

I was thinking of maybe getting this setup for another Folding rig.
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post #9 of 45
Don't expect anything good for overclocking. You'd have to go for onboard graphics if you want to keep this budget. Check is original requirements. It fits the bill

However, the motherboard is indeed the component I would upgrade. The Biostar tForce is actually an mATX board that supposedly overclocks decent:
BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX $74.99

That'll push the price up by $20 though...

Note: the CPU cooler is included with the CPU. I really don't expect you to overclock this rig a lot.. correct?
    
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However, the motherboard is indeed the component I would upgrade. The Biostar tForce is actually an mATX board that supposedly overclocks decent:
BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX $74.99
You can get that mobo and a 3500+ Orleans 2.2ghz as a combo deal for $153.00
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