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post #31 of 45
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Well yes, I did, but I'm not sure if I should go with the AM2 sockets, and 240-pin ddr, or just stick with the somewhat older and slightly cheaper 184, and 939 socket. That's really what I'm pushing for, whatever is cheapest, becuase I don't really have a gigantic budget for this right now. I will in a year or two, but right now I'm tight for money.
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post #32 of 45
I think we see some general trends:
  • CPU: cheapest decent Athlon 64, either the 3000+ Venice 1.8GHz Socket 939 or the 3000+ Orleans 1.8GHz Socket AM2. My vote goes for the AM2, since it will upgrade better.
  • RAM: A single 512MB stick, either G.SKILL 512MB 184-Pin DDR 400 (for socket 939) $51.99 or Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 533 (for socket AM2) $49.99
  • HDD: should be clear now: HITACHI Deskstar 7K160 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s $42.99
  • MoBo: the biggest point of discussion. Many options here, and several have been given.

If, however, absolutely cheapest is the requirement,... Let me look
    
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post #33 of 45
The price difference between AM2 and 939 is miniscule (If any), so you should definately go for AM2.

Is there a specific aspect your undecided on ? (CPU, Mobo, Memory, ect...)
    
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post #34 of 45
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Not anymore. Let's go with the AM2, specifically becuase of the upgradability, and I just spoke with someone over the phone and I can get a few spare parts from him for free that I could use for it. (Pretty much just ram cards)
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post #35 of 45
If ABSOLUTELY cheap is the main requirement, then look at this. However, this is old tech, and absolutely not upgradable.

MoBo + CPU: Biostar M7VIG 400 Via Socket A MicoATX + AMD Duron 1.60GHz OEM $69.99 - $20 MIR
RAM: pqi POWER Series 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 333 (PC 2700) $51.99
HDD: HITACHI Deskstar 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s $42.99
PSU: Sunbeam RGPS-450W ATX 450Watts $16.99

Ok, that's out thus, since you do want upgradability. LOL But hey, $181.96 + shipping

Having that said... that PSU does actually not even look too bad for $16.99. I mean, 450W, and 20A on a single 12V rail. Enough for this. (Personally I'd spend more on a PSU, but heck...for this rig, it'll just do it)
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart
If ABSOLUTELY cheap is the main requirement, then look at this. However, this is old tech, and absolutely not upgradable.

Ok, that's out thus, since you do want upgradability. LOL But hey, $181.96 + shipping
lol, I hate to be such problem, but yeah, I'm looking for the upgradability, and thus following your advice with the AM2 socket mobo and processor. I might as well go with the 3000+ Orleans AM2 one, and I'm looking for some mobo's right now. Plus I figure since I'm buying this over the course of 2-3 months, it doesn't need to be absolutely cheap, but I'm pushing for 250 or below, but y'know, 280 wouldn't be bad. But we'll set the limit there for the time being, and stick with what we've found. (Well, you've found mostly. xD.)
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post #37 of 45
My AM2 Suggestion:
Total: $254.95 + $12.84 shipping = $267.79

As I said before, the Biostar tForce is one of the better mATX boards, and the socket 939 is known to actually overclock quite decently. Given the similarities, I assume the AM2 version to offer overclockability as well. I think we all can agree on the CPU and the HDD (or maybe the WD for $1 extra). Leaving the RAM and PSU open for discussion. Although I usually preach for a good solid PSU, which will cost around $50 or more, in this case, I think the Sunbeam I linked will do the trick.
    
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post #38 of 45
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I agree with you. I like the motherboard, except one thing, there's 2 PCI slots. But that shouldn't matter a whole lot. The only thing I'm much using it for is my wireless networking card. Actually, I just looked through a lot of other mobo's and compared them, and yours does seem the best.

And it'll be pretty basic for picking out a ram card, and I'll tell you the truth, I have no clue what I'm doing when looking at psu's. So I'll completely trust your judgement. (Just make sure it's a good one ) +1 to your rep. Thanks for stayin' with me for this long, and thanks for looking into so much stuff, you're a great help.
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post #39 of 45
As I said, for the PSU to be really 'good', you'd have to spend a bit more (around $40 or so + shipping). However, Sunbeam is a brand that knows how to make a good PSU (the 550W NUUO), and thus I expect this PSU not to be bad at all. It's definately good for the rig we're planning here.

There are generally two things to look for: The Wattage, and the current (amperes) on the 12V rail. Cheap PSUs generally have a low current on the 12V rail, 18A or less.. The fact that this one delivers 20A on the 12V rail speaks in its advantage.

I will dig up some alternatives.
This LOGISYS Computer PS550ABK ATX12V 550Watts looks also decent for $19.99 (it's a 400W unit; don't be mislead by the 550W label, since that's at peak)
    
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post #40 of 45
Anything above about 18a on the rails will power that rig fine. But if you want upgradability, just jump on an fsp grup dual rail now so you'll have that ready.
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