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Hey there!

I was looking to get a liquid cooler to get some better temps on my i7 2600k (Clocked at 4.8ghz) I currently get anywhere between 70-80 degrees Celsius playing heavy games like Metro 2033. The cooler I currently have is a Coolermaster V6GT air cooler, and my case is the Coolermaster HAF X. Because I have never done water cooling before, I thought I would get a kit, but I really didn't want one of those yucky closed circuit ones where you couldn't expand in ANY way. I had a look at Swiftech's H20-320 DIY custom cooler, which I thought was a nice step up from the all in one's but also didn't look too complex. The product is here: http://www.swiftech.com/h2o-x20-edge-hd.aspx#tab3

I also thought about getting some of Koolance's Quick Disconnects. I've heard about leaks and other scary things, and these supposedly are a VERY good thing to have for your cooler: http://www.koolance.com/technical/quick_disconnect_shutoff_couplings/qdc_fittings.html

So here are my questions for you,

Do you think this would go well in my case?
Do you think this would give me some better temps that I currently get?
Do you think it would also do a good job cooling my two GTX 580's of I decide to expand in future?

Thanks!

-Nick
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post #2 of 14
just remember those quick connects add a good bit of restriction to the flow depending on the plunger size and shape
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1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Not a chance. Add another 240 radiator or greater and some better fans and you will be set though. The pump built into that kit is actually great for high restriction loops.
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Water cooling "goes well" in any case! thumb.gif
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1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Not a chance. Add another 240 radiator or greater and some better fans and you will be set though. The pump built into that kit is actually great for high restriction loops.

Thank-You very much for your help, it has greatly assisted me. I know I ask a lot of questions, but, do you have an idea of how much of an improvement I might see? Like a 5 degree drop or even a 20 degree drop ect? Sorry to be a pain.
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The best temperature you can get while water cooling is ambient unless using a chiller of course
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrored View Post

The best temperature you can get while water cooling is ambient unless using a chiller of course

A chiller? What is that?
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A chiller? What is that?

By a chiller he means any device (usually electronic) that actively removes heat from a system (as opposed to passively removing heat through convection).

Examples: TECs, Compressors, aquarium coolers, buckets full of ice...

As far as temps, you should be seeing substantial temp improvements going from air to a good liquid cooling setup. Exactly how much of a difference depends on your old coolers, your new cooler, and your ambient temps. In your case, you already have fairly good air coolers, so it wont be as big of an improvement as if you were using stock reference cooling on your gpu's for example, but it will still help.

To give you an example, my refrence GTX 280 ran 40+ degrees higher than my liquid cooled 295 at all times, even though the 295 is a significantly hotter card.
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By a chiller he means any device (usually electronic) that actively removes heat from a system (as opposed to passively removing heat through convection).
Examples: TECs, Compressors, aquarium coolers, buckets full of ice...
As far as temps, you should be seeing substantial temp improvements going from air to a good liquid cooling setup. Exactly how much of a difference depends on your old coolers, your new cooler, and your ambient temps. In your case, you already have fairly good air coolers, so it wont be as big of an improvement as if you were using stock reference cooling on your gpu's for example, but it will still help.
To give you an example, my refrence GTX 280 ran 40+ degrees higher than my liquid cooled 295 at all times, even though the 295 is a significantly hotter card.

So these chillers are only necessary for those extreme overclocker's wanting to break records and things? Kinda like how they use liquid nitrogen and stuff.. And that is great to hear, I do have quite hot ambient temps because I live in Australia (25-40C) So that is probably my main problem with my temps. Do you think by cooling my CPU down it might possibly lower the temps of my GPU's? I have noticed from having 2 multi-GPU configurations (HD5850 CFX and GTX 580 SLI) that the card that is closest to the CPU ALWAYS gets hotter than the bottom card. When my top card is sweating it out on 95+C my bottom card is usually happily running on 70ishC. So, do you think that by cooling my CPU down a bit (Say I got it down to 60C) that would cool my top card down?
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Quote:
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So these chillers are only necessary for those extreme overclocker's wanting to break records and things? Kinda like how they use liquid nitrogen and stuff.. And that is great to hear, I do have quite hot ambient temps because I live in Australia (25-40C) So that is probably my main problem with my temps. Do you think by cooling my CPU down it might possibly lower the temps of my GPU's? I have noticed from having 2 multi-GPU configurations (HD5850 CFX and GTX 580 SLI) that the card that is closest to the CPU ALWAYS gets hotter than the bottom card. When my top card is sweating it out on 95+C my bottom card is usually happily running on 70ishC. So, do you think that by cooling my CPU down a bit (Say I got it down to 60C) that would cool my top card down?

the reason the CPU heat affects the GPU heat (and vice versa) is because air cooling is done by transferring heat from the heatsink into the surrounding air. The hot air coming off of the heatsinks tends to sit around in your case for a while before case fans or natural convection pulls it out.

What this means is that the hot air from your cpu can be blowing right into your gpu, effectively heating the gpu. This is actually true for all components in your case, not just the CPU and GPU, and it is not unidirectional.


When you liquid cool, you have the option of placing the radiator someone where on the perimeter of the case, or even externally. This effectively means that almost all of the heat of the liquid cooled components can be released into the air OUTSIDE the case as opposed to inside it. This keeps the ambient air temp within your case cooler and almost entirely removes the issue of one component substantially heating another component.


So short answer: by liquid cooling your cpu, it will also help your gpu, and vice versa, even if the second component is still air cooled.
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