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I am using this gadget and have the most recent version. It will not show any clock speeds above stock speed. I am at 4.8 and it is not showing above 3.3. CPU-Z shows me at 4.8 GHZ. Not sure what the issue is.


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You could consider using open hardware monitor from http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

 

here's a screenshot of the monitor on my desktop as I have customized it. It shows voltages, temperatures, CPU and GPU loads, HDD temperature, and other things.

 

It's customizable, as you can name each component yourself and choose what things get shown in the gadget overlay. Furthermore, you do not need to have the vista/win7 gadgets installed to use this gadget overlay, even though it functions like a gadget! (It uses less memory too.)

 

The gadget is to the right desktop in the screenshot and the full program list is on the left desktop.

 

(You might have to right click and open in a new tab for values in the screenshot to be legible.)

 

openHWMonitor.jpg

 

I tried out the gadgets that you are using and they just didn't work well for me either. They displayed incorrect values, lacked customization, gave me useless information that I didn't want, like taking up space with logos or giant font names of products, and I needed 2 or 3 gadgets open to monitor everything I wanted to monitor.

 

That's what led me to this minimalistic and customizable overlay that I'm using now.


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shadow, 1.336v for 4.7ghz ? really ? awesome chip i thinks.
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It doesn't correctly read the clock values. I still use all those add gadget tools though. Simple and with two clicks I disable all of them.

I use the CPU, GPU, Drives, and Network Meters... in addition to my Pandora gadget. Perfect setup in my opinion.
 
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It doesn't correctly read the clock values. I still use all those add gadget tools though. Simple and with two clicks I disable all of them.

I use the CPU, GPU, Drives, and Network Meters... in addition to my Pandora gadget. Perfect setup in my opinion.


Yeah, I was doing that, but I just got annoyed by all of the clutter from having a separate window for CPU/GPU/HDD. I don't need a network meter where I'm at. The other issue was that I disliked having the gadget service enabled as it was a resource hog. I went with the open hardware monitor setup because it uses a gadget style overlay without needing gadget services enabled at all. Hardware Monitor (the freeware) won't let you rename things or graph things. Hardware Monitor Pro (the paid version) will let you rename things and graph things. Then I found the open source Open Hardware Monitor and it's essentially HWMonPro but open source and free. :) It's what I like best, but you might not prefer it.
 

 

And, to reply to pc-illiterate, I'm going to hide my reply in a spoiler, since it would take this thread off-topic.

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shadow, 1.336v for 4.7ghz ? really ? awesome chip i thinks.


 

Yes, really. :)

 

I settled on 4.7 GHz for temperature and voltage reasons, even though I could be 24/7 stable at 4.8 GHz. I found a slight voltage wall at 4.8 GHz.

 

I didn't feel comfortable at 4.9 GHz with my air cooling setup due to the occasionally high ambient temperatures my PC room can get up to in the summer time and there was a significant temperature difference between 4.8 and 4.9 GHz, where there was very little difference between 4.8 and 4.7 and no difference between 4.6 and 4.7.

 

I never could get it to boot into windows fully at 5.0 GHz. So instead, I worked on maximizing the FLOP/S efficiency at my chosen 4.7 GHz. I'm in offset mode with speedstep enabled and the bare minimum LLC to keep my Vdroop from causing any crashes at load transients. I could eliminate LLC entirely but I'd have to raise the offset further. I could reduce the offset, but I'd have to increase the LLC. Where I'm at right now is the sweet spot for the maximum efficiency, as I have the least power consumption at these settings. So I'm almost never hitting any of the internal current or temperature related throttles and that keeps my processing power high with my voltage low.

 

 



 

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unfortunately the All CPU Gadget only reads the bclock x nonturbo multi, somehow it doesn't know how to read the turbo speed (as that is the actual multi you are changing). Don't know if there is a fix coming down for it but its been like that for some time. So you aren't the only one thumb.gif
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It doesn't correctly read the clock values. I still use all those add gadget tools though. Simple and with two clicks I disable all of them.
I use the CPU, GPU, Drives, and Network Meters... in addition to my Pandora gadget. Perfect setup in my opinion.

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unfortunately the All CPU Gadget only reads the bclock x nonturbo multi, somehow it doesn't know how to read the turbo speed (as that is the actual multi you are changing). Don't know if there is a fix coming down for it but its been like that for some time. So you aren't the only one thumb.gif

I saw someone else using the same gadget and it was working fine. They even had the same CPU.

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I asked what he was using and he was just using the all cpu monitor that is on the core temp website. I downloaded that and it would not even read when the CPU was down clocking for speed step. Got rid of that as it just looked like an older version of the one I am using now.

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Yeah, I was doing that, but I just got annoyed by all of the clutter from having a separate window for CPU/GPU/HDD. I don't need a network meter where I'm at. The other issue was that I disliked having the gadget service enabled as it was a resource hog. I went with the open hardware monitor setup because it uses a gadget style overlay without needing gadget services enabled at all. Hardware Monitor (the freeware) won't let you rename things or graph things. Hardware Monitor Pro (the paid version) will let you rename things and graph things. Then I found the open source Open Hardware Monitor and it's essentially HWMonPro but open source and free. smile.gif It's what I like best, but you might not prefer it.

I have HW Monitor and like it. However, I like the gadgets because I do not have to open them every time I restart and they look a lot better on the desktop. Maybe I am just lazy. wink.gif
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I saw someone else using the same gadget and it was working fine. They even had the same CPU.

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I asked what he was using and he was just using the all cpu monitor that is on the core temp website. I downloaded that and it would not even read when the CPU was down clocking for speed step. Got rid of that as it just looked like an older version of the one I am using now.


It's possible that it has to do with the C states reporting on your motherboard, but I experienced the same problem that you are having with the all cpu monitors, no matter what versions I used.


 

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Yeah, I was doing that, but I just got annoyed by all of the clutter from having a separate window for CPU/GPU/HDD. I don't need a network meter where I'm at. The other issue was that I disliked having the gadget service enabled as it was a resource hog. I went with the open hardware monitor setup because it uses a gadget style overlay without needing gadget services enabled at all. Hardware Monitor (the freeware) won't let you rename things or graph things. Hardware Monitor Pro (the paid version) will let you rename things and graph things. Then I found the open source Open Hardware Monitor and it's essentially HWMonPro but open source and free. smile.gif It's what I like best, but you might not prefer it.


I have HW Monitor and like it. However, I like the gadgets because I do not have to open them every time I restart and they look a lot better on the desktop. Maybe I am just lazy. wink.gif
 

 

I'm using Open HW Monitor. (Which is like HW Mon Pro). Mine starts with Windows in a minimized (to systray) fashion, so that the big honkin' thing you saw on the left desktop is normally hidden and can't be seen in the normal task bar, but the little blue overlay on the right hand side that looks like a gadget is visible on start-up. You can change the font size, opacity, and dimension of the gadget that I have but I haven't found a way to change the colors myself

 

Since it's open-source, I technically could make any changes that I wanted to and re-compile it myself but I don't know enough about windows APIs to do it.

 

Anyhow, I was just trying to mention an alternative that will show the frequency of each core in real time. :)

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I'm using Open HW Monitor. (Which is like HW Mon Pro). Mine starts with Windows in a minimized (to systray) fashion, so that the big honkin' thing you saw on the left desktop is normally hidden and can't be seen in the normal task bar, but the little blue overlay on the right hand side that looks like a gadget is visible on start-up. You can change the font size, opacity, and dimension of the gadget that I have but I haven't found a way to change the colors myself

Since it's open-source, I technically could make any changes that I wanted to and re-compile it myself but I don't know enough about windows APIs to do it.

Anyhow, I was just trying to mention an alternative that will show the frequency of each core in real time. smile.gif

It is beautiful!.. I replace 2 clunky gadgets with 1. I do have a question. Do I really need to know the temp of all of my CPU cores, or can I just look at the CPU temp in here? Also, why is just the CPU temp so much different than each individual core temp? When I bring up ASUS probe it reads the same for the just the one CPU temp....IF that makes any sense..

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It is beautiful!.. I replace 2 clunky gadgets with 1. I do have a question. Do I really need to know the temp of all of my CPU cores, or can I just look at the CPU temp in here? Also, why is just the CPU temp so much different than each individual core temp? When I bring up ASUS probe it reads the same for the just the one CPU temp....IF that makes any sense..

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Yes, that makes perfect sense to me.

 

So the "CPU Temp" is the "case Temp" and is not the actual on-die core temperature. That's a single value that is often different from each individual core temperature and, honestly, that "Case temp" value is one of the ones I hide, as it's meaningless to me. The "case temp" is lower than the core temps and you can potentially damage your CPU if you rely on the "case temp" to be your maximum temperature gauge.

 

To me, what matters is the CPU core temperature, and each core is different and I believe that it's valuable to know all four, so I have all four display on my gadget and hide the single value from view.

 

You can right click each sensor and then re-name each of the sensors to anything you want in the white box and they will be renamed in the gadget.

 

I use the following settings in the options panel:

Start Minimized

Minimize To Tray

Run On Windows Startup

Read HDD Sensors

 

I also enabled "Show Hidden Sensors" and "Show Gadget" in the View panel and I have the columns set to show value, min, and max instead of just value and max.

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