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Is this applicable outside the UK as well? I searched around, and couldn't find anything pertaining to other areas.

Does anyone have info on the US edu discounts?
    
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They're supposedly ending discounts for the most expensive and unnecessary products for students... what are you on about? A student doesn't need more than Office Home And Student or 7 Premium,

And Visio, Visial Studio, Microsoft Mathmatics.... Students need more than just office and a copy of the OS.
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Again curious--does anyone know if this applies to regions outside of the UK? I haven't seen anything indicating this in NA.
    
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And Visio, Visial Studio, Microsoft Mathmatics.... Students need more than just office and a copy of the OS.

Damn...maybe the price of Visual Studio (even though many text books included it) will force people to start using other IDEs in the education system.
     
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Damn...maybe the price of Visual Studio (even though many text books included it) will force people to start using other IDEs in the education system.

We use Eclipse with the Borland "Together Tool" at Uni... believe me, I'd take a sharp kick to the nuts and Visual Studio 2010 than have to program in Eclipse. Unfortunately for me this semester I don't have the choice of a kick to the nuts. I've got to use it. Visual Studio is the mutts nuts, imho and makes debugging and writing sooooo much easier... to the point where I try to import my Eclipse projects into it where I can in order to debug my code frown.gif
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Man, this stinks. I'm glad I got my Windows 7 student upgrade while I could.
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We use Eclipse with the Borland "Together Tool" at Uni... believe me, I'd take a sharp kick to the nuts and Visual Studio 2010 than have to program in Eclipse. Unfortunately for me this semester I don't have the choice of a kick to the nuts. I've got to use it. Visual Studio is the mutts nuts, imho and makes debugging and writing sooooo much easier... to the point where I try to import my Eclipse projects into it where I can in order to debug my code frown.gif

But did you learn using Visual Studio first or another IDE/coding base? It seems IDE are like OSes. If you learned Linux first you'll likely dislike windows and the other way around is the same. Never code get Eclipse to work on the classroom computers but it worked fine on mine. Just couldn't swap code between VS and Eclipse...maybe CodeBlocks? IDK...it's been years since I attempted coding and was never good at it.

Still, MS is probably doing the cuts to increase margins and provide just the "essentials" to students. If they stopped all of these discounts or many of them permanently that would be great for the Linux world. Because MS only lets poor countries get away with piracy since that's good business.
     
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But did you learn using Visual Studio first or another IDE/coding base? It seems IDE are like OSes. If you learned Linux first you'll likely dislike windows and the other way around is the same. Never code get Eclipse to work on the classroom computers but it worked fine on mine. Just couldn't swap code between VS and Eclipse...maybe CodeBlocks? IDK...it's been years since I attempted coding and was never good at it.
Still, MS is probably doing the cuts to increase margins and provide just the "essentials" to students. If they stopped all of these discounts or many of them permanently that would be great for the Linux world. Because MS only lets poor countries get away with piracy since that's good business.

I learnt in notepad.exe first wink.gif

Eclipse isn't bad as an IDE. I can't get it to run with the Together Tool in Windows, though. Which is just as well because the Uni site licence only covers a specific Linux version anyways (3.5.2, I think).

What I like about Visual Studio 2010 is the autocomplete features and that it knows exactly what all the methods are from a certain class, etc, so when you start typing the name of such things it pops up. Eitherway it stops me having to actually write a lot of the code and I find myself press the down and enter keys a lot. Then there's debugging the code and putting in line breaks to step through the code, when you hover the mouse over bits of code it shows you all the information they hold in the memory and such....

So yeah I find Visual Studio 2010 to be invaluable! And the stuff MS have pulled? I don't think anyone uses them anyway! Dreamspark still has everything I need.

Still never seen Office Pro Plus 2010 for £10, though...All I ever see is the home and student edition which is practically useless to everyone.
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