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It's probably like Mars. Habitable... but doesn't support life.
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Even if we could get a probe there the chances of getting humans there is pretty slim. You can't move humans at anywhere close to light speed and expect them to live. There are a lot of challenges facing this even after developing the propulsion technology.
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woot woot maybe theres a stargate on that planet thinking.gif lol but realisticly i wish we had some way to explore the stars... i jsut dont understand why we dont have telescopes on the moon and a huge livable spacestation in orbit frown.gif
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There are big questions on density, gravity, atmosphere to be sure.
I wish the focus for astronomy included (already suggested and requested) telescope systems on the moon. There would be great advantage to having them there.

What advantage would moon based telescopes have over orbiting ones?


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Even if we could get a probe there the chances of getting humans there is pretty slim. You can't move humans at anywhere close to light speed and expect them to live. There are a lot of challenges facing this even after developing the propulsion technology.
Yes, you can move humans near the speed of light. Right now we all are move at over 2,000,000 kph due to the Milky Way. Velocity is relative.

The velocity will not kill you... it is the acceleration. This can be solved by accelerating more slowly.

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woot woot maybe theres a stargate on that planet thinking.gif lol but realisticly i wish we had some way to explore the stars... i jsut dont understand why we dont have telescopes on the moon and a huge livable spacestation in orbit frown.gif
Why is a huge livable spacestation in orbit even needed? (I would like one as well... but currently I do not believe it is feasible yet.)

Robotic exploration is cheaper, faster, safer, and more flexible.
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/2/12 at 12:10pm
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woot woot maybe theres a stargate on that planet thinking.gif lol but realisticly i wish we had some way to explore the stars... i jsut dont understand why we dont have telescopes on the moon and a huge livable spacestation in orbit frown.gif

Telescopes on the moon, or using large mirrors on the moon and orbiting satellites in tandem with large scopes on Earth would be amazing. I remember reading about a suggest project to place two or three large mirrors (or maybe they were independent telescopes) that when angled the right way would combine to create 'telescope' of sorts hundreds or thousands of times more powerful than Hubble!

If only money were directed at these kinds of large scientific studies instead of..... other things. tongue.gif
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What advantage would moon based telescopes have over orbiting ones?

What I just mentioned above - much greater resolution, the ability to see farther and clearer, and to map large swaths of our 'skies' in greater segments.
    
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What advantage would moon based telescopes have over orbiting ones?
Yes, you can move humans near the speed of light. Right now we all are move at over 2,000,000 kph due to the Milky Way. Velocity is relative.
The velocity will not kill you... it is the acceleration. This can be solved by accelerating more slowly.

i dont think thats right... logicly yes but from what i was taught (highschool) the gravity of our planet works like a sheild... preventing the speed of our traveling from affecting us. And nothing can travel faster then the speed of light because the molecuels change and we would all jsut vanish

correct me if im wrong but i rly thought this was proven by science that the only way to travel massive distances is with a wormhole or some kind of tech liek that
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Nuclear Propulsion = continuous thrust. Combine that with an ION drive for beyond continuation of travel and we could get there before the Earth dies... possibly.
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/Nuclear%20Propulsion%20Choices%20for%20Space%20Exploration.pdf
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Well what if all life on could be on the planet is gone/dead? What we are seeing is happening 22 so and so years ago right? Or am I not understanding how this works?
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Well what if all life on could be on the planet is gone/dead? What we are seeing is happening 22 so and so years ago right? Or am I not understanding how this works?

Well, we haven't actually 'seen' (in the sense of the word) the planet yet - scientists are only confirming (confirmed, actually) that the planet is in what we know (in life as we know it) to be the 'habitable' zone. And 22 light years means any light emitted from that region of the planet would take 22 years to reach us - so any thing we will be able to 'see' is roughly a little over two decades 'old' if you will.
    
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22 lightyears? Orion might be able to do it in a few decades--call it 50 years. But everyone is nuke-shy so that's not going to happen.
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