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i dont think thats right... logicly yes but from what i was taught (highschool) the gravity of our planet works like a sheild... preventing the speed of our traveling from affecting us. And nothing can travel faster then the speed of light because the molecuels change and we would all jsut vanish
correct me if im wrong but i rly thought this was proven by science that the only way to travel massive distances is with a wormhole or some kind of tech liek that

One easy way to counter velocity effect on the human would be to fill the ship with liquid... I think I read that somewhere when I was a kid.
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man this is exciting i rly do hope we find a way to reach it in a reasonable amountof time
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i dont think thats right... logicly yes but from what i was taught (highschool) the gravity of our planet works like a sheild... preventing the speed of our traveling from affecting us. And nothing can travel faster then the speed of light because the molecuels change and we would all jsut vanish
correct me if im wrong but i rly thought this was proven by science that the only way to travel massive distances is with a wormhole or some kind of tech liek that

I shall! Molecules don't change at light speed, that would be nonsensical. Rather, the amount of energy required to attain light speed is infinite. You simply can't do it. As for the planet protecting us from... What? No. The planet's electromagnetic field protects us from cosmic rays, but it doesn't protect us from the planet's velocity... because there is nothing to protect us from.

I think you might have nodded off during science class and gotten a garbled message, or just have forgotten since high school, because nothing that you said was correct.
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What I just mentioned above - much greater resolution, the ability to see farther and clearer, and to map large swaths of our 'skies' in greater segments.

Again, why would a moon-based mirror improve resolution, clarity, and aperture?

Resolution and aperture is based on size.... and it it easier to build a large array of telescopes in space and closer to Earth.
Clarity has to do with interference and distortion. A telescope at a Lagrangian points would not be affected by Earth/Moon gravity. For light interference from the Earth or Sun, a telescope in orbit at the dark side would still make more sense.



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i dont think thats right... logicly yes but from what i was taught (highschool) the gravity of our planet works like a sheild... preventing the speed of our traveling from affecting us. And nothing can travel faster then the speed of light because the molecuels change and we would all jsut vanish
correct me if im wrong but i rly thought this was proven by science that the only way to travel massive distances is with a wormhole or some kind of tech liek that

No gravity of Earth does not act like a shield. Velocity is relative and this is why we do not notice the rotation of the Earth or galaxy.

No mass/information can move faster than the speed of light since it would take infinite energy.


Wormholes have to be created and then move to be able to be traveled through.... they cannot violate the speed of light/information.
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I shall! Molecules don't change at light speed, that would be nonsensical. Rather, the amount of energy required to attain light speed is infinite. You simply can't do it.
ok makes sense
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As for the planet protecting us from... What? No. The planet's electromagnetic field protects us from cosmic rays, but it doesn't protect us from the planet's velocity... because there is nothing to protect us from.
I think you might have nodded off during science class and gotten a garbled message, or just have forgotten since high school, because nothing that you said was correct.
its possible XD i tend to nod alot... and i guess your right if the acceleration is what makes it impossible we are always moveing that fast and have always been (for all intesive purposes) so it makes sense biggrin.gif
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Wormholes have to be created and then move to be able to be traveled through.... they cannot violate the speed of light/information.
ok makes sense... sorta but i think there still somethign that is so out there we dont fully understand them
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Again, why would a moon-based mirror improve resolution, clarity, and aperture?
Resolution and aperture is based on size.... and it it easier to build a large array of telescopes in space and closer to Earth.
Clarity has to do with interference and distortion. A telescope at a Lagrangian points would not be affected by Earth/Moon gravity. For light interference from the Earth or Sun, a telescope in orbit at the dark side would still make more sense.

Because it's easier to create liquid mirrors on the moon than in orbit around the Earth (or moon)?
    
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So are we going there to find some unobtainum or what biggrin.gif

no but seriously... we are not gunna be able to get there... traveling at light speed is one thing... but supplying food for more than 1 person for 22 years is another
    
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Because it's easier to create liquid mirrors on the moon than in orbit around the Earth (or moon)?

I still don't understand....

Liquids are found on earth but none on the moon.
Liquids on the moon are almost as hard to maintain as in space.
Moon's gravity is uneven which means to imperfect mirrors.


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IDEA: build a super sized Apollo ship (im talking miles baby) in orbit. launch it, get to planet soon(ish)
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I still don't understand....
Liquids are found on earth but none on the moon.
Liquids on the moon are almost as hard to maintain as in space.
Moon's gravity is uneven which means to imperfect mirrors.
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Not uneven over the whole surface? Why are you opposed to bringing technology to the moon in an effort to advance our understanding of the cosmos?

It would be extremely hard to maintain a telescope array in orbit around the earth, requiring much smaller scopes in comparison, that would be able to generate the same kind of visibility to those on the moon. I don't understand that stance...
    
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