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We need to achieve warp drive. tongue.gif
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4.5x larger than the earth? Wouldn't that make it one of the largest (if not the largest) rocky planets to be found?
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First we need some Dilithium, or Element Zero (depending on which universe you're coming from tongue.gif)
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Not uneven over the whole surface? Why are you opposed to bringing technology to the moon in an effort to advance our understanding of the cosmos?
It would be extremely hard to maintain a telescope array in orbit around the earth, requiring much smaller scopes in comparison, that would be able to generate the same kind of visibility to those on the moon. I don't understand that stance...

I'm not opposed to anything... that is why I am attempting to understand the advantages. Since this is a discussion, I am analyzing your statements for validity. I am asking very specific questions. You made a statement... and I am asking if it is true and why.

Why would it be harder to maintain a telescope array in orbit? Getting an array into orbit is much cheaper than getting an array into orbit, travelling to the moon, landing, and assembly.

A bigger telescope is easier to assemble in orbit than an a moon with gravity.
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That means we just need a stasis chamber on ship and a ai ship interface with life support and robot maintains for 220000 years lol. I guess the government better get building fast lol
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How far is this one though =?
Answer to myself
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The researchers estimate that the planet, called GJ 667Cc, is at least 4.5 times as massive as Earth, which makes it a so-called super-Earth. It takes roughly 28 days to make one orbital lap around its parent star, which is located a mere 22 light-years away from Earth, in the constellation Scorpius (the Scorpion).
Thats excellent!! Only 22 light Years away!!! That means if we can get a good Image of this planet, we wont be seing an image that happend stupid long ago.
Might be possible to see the water on this planet, very exciting
Question is, using todays technology, what is the realistic amount of time spent to travel to this planet =/
even using conventional boosters and then ion propulsion, would still take much longer than we would like....
anyone able to make a Guesstimate?

The current rocket propulsion is 1/10,000 of the speed of light hence multiply 22x10,000= 220,000 years That means if we send a ship now we would get there in 220,000 years!

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Habitable zone <> Habitable!

Exactly..They can't call it earth UNTIL they are on solid ground and not dead. Tired of all this habitable planet poo..there is only ONE earth..lol
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I'm not opposed to anything... that is why I am attempting to understand the advantages. Since this is a discussion, I am analyzing your statements for validity. I am asking very specific questions. You made a statement... and I am asking if it is true and why.
Why would it be harder to maintain a telescope array in orbit? Getting an array into orbit is much cheaper than getting an array into orbit, travelling to the moon, landing, and assembly.
A bigger telescope is easier to assemble in orbit than an a moon with gravity.

I would imagine that building a telescope array (three has been suggested) and housed in some kind of protective building or manifold would be much easier to maintain in space weather than satellites with light protection (for lift and weight constraints) around the Earth. I think the added benefit of being able to create much larger surfaces on the moon in comparison to the array of smaller scopes would give a much larger viewing segment.

The hurdles to get to the moon and building there are immense, much more so than getting satellites into orbit - no doubt. Specific placement on the moon would keeps unobstructed views not possible with a multiple-pieced array of scopes. Plus you could make it there:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/lunar_telescopes.html
    
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I'm not understanding why people are talking about "maintaining speed" in space. There is next to zero resistance, you could basically burn to the speed you wanted and coast, only making small adjustments and maybe another burn here and there.
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I would imagine that building a telescope array (three has been suggested) and housed in some kind of protective building or manifold would be much easier to maintain in space weather than satellites with light protection (for lift and weight constraints) around the Earth. I think the added benefit of being able to create much larger surfaces on the moon in comparison to the array of smaller scopes would give a much larger viewing segment.
The hurdles to get to the moon and building there are immense, much more so than getting satellites into orbit - no doubt. Specific placement on the moon would keeps unobstructed views not possible with a multiple-pieced array of scopes. Plus you could make it there:
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2008/lunar_telescopes.html

The advantage is moon resources could be used to be build the telescope onsite. wink.gif

That's the reason it was proposed!
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The advantage is moon resources could be used to be build the telescope onsite. wink.gif
That's the reason it was proposed!

That's what I just said!? tongue.gif
    
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I doubt humans could stand on the surface of that planet. You would experience -44.1 m/s^2. Fainting and heart failure seem likely.
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