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Maybe they're the ones that abducted me. evo.gif
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Originally Posted by NirXY View Post

hoping to see images of the planet while i'm still alive.
i'm 31 by the way

Dude the light is already here, and has been for 22 years since after the planet was created, they just have to photograph it.
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What advantage would moon based telescopes have over orbiting ones?.

Well for one we would be able to see things far more clearly with a space based observation, the hubble telescope gets the best pictures and it's not the most powerful, but because it is space based and doesn't have to compensate for atmosphere and other problems with trying to view planets and stars. Plus they can only be seen at night, but on the moon night lasts for 6 months. Since the moon is tidal locked to the earth, the earth has to make half a rotation around the sun before the opposite side of the moon receives light.
Edited by Maelthras - 2/2/12 at 3:14pm
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Anyone know how intense the luminosity of the planet would need to be for us to be able to analyze the gases in its atmosphere?

Assuming that's possible for planets at all, like it's for stars.
 
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I am sure it's easy to do so, just need to take a spectograph, diffrent colors for every element. So say purple is water, and the planet shows as purple then it has water in liquid form since it's at that temperature.
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The current rocket propulsion is 1/10,000 of the speed of light hence multiply 22x10,000= 220,000 years That means if we send a ship now we would get there in 220,000 years!
Where do you guys learn math, really?

Speed of light = 299,792,458 m/s

Say that fastest spacecraft that we have today travel at 61,000 Km/h (actually only one V1 was recorded that high and it was its heliocentric speed), that translates to approximately 16,944 m/s. That is approximately 17,692 times slower than the speed of light. This means that it would take us approximately 390,000 years to traverse the same distance that light covers in 22 years. That is far from your "220,000" years. In fact to be close to your figure, our fastest spacecraft would have to move roughly 80% faster than the ones today. To make the trip feasible for any human being without involving any quantum physics we would have to be talking moving at speeds of approx. 360,000,000 Km/h...yes, that is 390 million Km/h, vs our current 61 thousand Km/h! This also means that you would be around 80 years old when you get there, if you are still alive, assuming you left Earth around 15.

With our current relativity model for physics we are not making this trip anytime soon.

Also, gravity on that planet would crush you so, meh tongue.gif Let's focus on pictures.
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too bad we couldn't survive on it due to its gravity
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I am sure it's easy to do so, just need to take a spectograph, diffrent colors for every element. So say purple is water, and the planet shows as purple then it has water in liquid form since it's at that temperature.

That's not how a spectrograph works.
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this is great news! But means technology has to hurry too so our grand grand grand grand kids can see it haha
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I shall! Molecules don't change at light speed, that would be nonsensical. Rather, the amount of energy required to attain light speed is infinite. You simply can't do it. As for the planet protecting us from... What? No. The planet's electromagnetic field protects us from cosmic rays, but it doesn't protect us from the planet's velocity... because there is nothing to protect us from.
I think you might have nodded off during science class and gotten a garbled message, or just have forgotten since high school, because nothing that you said was correct.

Wrong. on not being able to reach light speed. Just because our technology and understanding say it's impossible doesn't make it impossible. Theories have already been made on the possibility. Our knowledge of science is constantly evolving. We are an extremely young race that has evolved very quickly. The advances we've made in the past 100 years alone prove as much. Scientific "facts" are constantly evolving and changing.

What really irks me is the fact that we are so "nuke shy" as you put it. Right now it's been estimated that 90 percent of all nuclear research is for military use and just 10 percent is spent on civilian/scientific use. Many countries have budgets that support this. What we as a race need to do is get our collective heads out of our asses and advance nuclear technology for us as whole planet, not just to see how can blow up the world first. If we put the effort and budget into safe uses for space propulsion and energy we'd have been somewhere already. Nuclear technology at the end of the day is going to be the ONLY thing were going to have for energy... This planets resources are being depleted very very quickly, I seriously doubt there's going to be much left in 1 or 200 years. Not only that but if we as a species want to survive long term we can not stay on this rock forever. Plain and simple. It's already so over populated entire regions go with very little to no food. Sadly China has the right idea limiting babies, it's to the point if we don't curb our population rate we will only meet our demise sooner. Simply put if we stay on the path we're on now in 500 years there's most likely not going to be anything left to actually live on.

On another note, I feel it's pure arrogance to think we are the sole living creatures on a universe that is pretty much infinite. There is no way that we can prove life exists, and there's also no way to prove it doesn't.
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