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Sigh, it makes me sad that I won't live to see us colonizing other planets.
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But will it have possibility of full solar eclipse which is pretty much impossible. I think not hahahaha.


Our Earth, Moon and Sun is the only inhabitable planet that would ever have sun, moon and planet aligned in the perfect way to have a eclipse like we do. In fact even another non inhabitable planet with such alignment would be rare in its self.
 
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How far is this one though =?
Answer to myself
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The researchers estimate that the planet, called GJ 667Cc, is at least 4.5 times as massive as Earth, which makes it a so-called super-Earth. It takes roughly 28 days to make one orbital lap around its parent star, which is located a mere 22 light-years away from Earth, in the constellation Scorpius (the Scorpion).
Thats excellent!! Only 22 light Years away!!! That means if we can get a good Image of this planet, we wont be seing an image that happend stupid long ago.
Might be possible to see the water on this planet, very exciting
Question is, using todays technology, what is the realistic amount of time spent to travel to this planet =/
even using conventional boosters and then ion propulsion, would still take much longer than we would like....
anyone able to make a Guesstimate?

If we were travelling at the same speed as the Voyager satellites, which is 35,000 miles per hour (which is about Mach 45, or roughly 18 times faster than a sniper rifle bullet), it would take roughly 420,860 years. Even travelling at the speed of light, which isn't possible, 22 years is an insanely long trip. Basically this planet will never be within our grasp unless we achieve faster than light speed travel, or at least a method to travel further than light could travel within a set amount of time.
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But will it have possibility of full solar eclipse which is pretty much impossible. I think not hahahaha.
Our Earth, Moon and Sun is the only inhabitable planet that would ever have sun, moon and planet aligned in the perfect way to have a eclipse like we do. In fact even another non inhabitable planet with such alignment would be rare in its self.

Earth won't have a full lunar eclipse for much longer (relative to the Earth lifespan), the moon moves further from Earth every year. In fact, someday Earth will not have a moon.
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But will it have possibility of full solar eclipse which is pretty much impossible. I think not hahahaha.
Our Earth, Moon and Sun is the only inhabitable planet that would ever have sun, moon and planet aligned in the perfect way to have a eclipse like we do. In fact even another non inhabitable planet with such alignment would be rare in its self.

Nnnnnnope.
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Sigh, it makes me sad that I won't live to see us colonizing other planets.

I don't know about you, but I plan to living to the age of 260. So maybe we'll be colonizing by then.

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On another note, I feel it's pure arrogance to think we are the sole living creatures on a universe that is pretty much infinite. There is no way that we can prove life exists, and there's also no way to prove it doesn't.
Well technically we can... all we need to do is find some life (har har). As for disproving a claim that's not reasonably falsifiable... yeah, no.

I don't see how it's arrogant to think we're the only living creatures in the universe, though. At worst grossly misinformed I would say given the statistics, but I see no arrogance in it. Oh well.
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If we were travelling at the same speed as the Voyager satellites, which is 35,000 miles per hour (which is about Mach 45, or roughly 18 times faster than a sniper rifle bullet), it would take roughly 420,860 years. Even travelling at the speed of light, which isn't possible, 22 years is an insanely long trip. Basically this planet will never be within our grasp unless we achieve faster than light speed travel, or at least a method to travel further than light could travel within a set amount of time.
Earth won't have a full lunar eclipse for much longer (relative to the Earth lifespan), the moon moves further from Earth every year. In fact, someday Earth will not have a moon.[/quote]

Earth will always have a moon. The moon will only keep moving away untill a certain point then stop. And by the time it even reaches such point our sun will be a blazing red giant smile.gif
    
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I don't see how it's arrogant to think we're the only living creatures in the universe

That is a pretty arrogant assumption to make, very christian

I'm not overtly keen on conspiracy theories, but i'm of the opinion that most of the hi-tech advances that "humans" have made in the last 65 years are reverse engineered from an original alien design - low voltage microprocessor technologies in particular wink.gif

Designing a spacecraft that could travel to this planet or discovering a form of interstellar transport is hindered by any number of potential hiccups,, Cost, Scientific advances (also cost) Commercial Viablility (Cost) and life support, resource recycling. I think a lot of the physics advances are going to depend on the LHC experiements, trying to prove the existence of the Higgs Bosun - in order to validate the standard model..

All that in a backdrop of economic uncertainty - cut backs on science research etc - The only realistic way that we could get the technology to that level would be if we were in a WW2 situation - where scientific advances weren't held back such a flimsy excuse as cost
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If we were travelling at the same speed as the Voyager satellites, which is 35,000 miles per hour (which is about Mach 45, or roughly 18 times faster than a sniper rifle bullet), it would take roughly 420,860 years. Even travelling at the speed of light, which isn't possible, 22 years is an insanely long trip. Basically this planet will never be within our grasp unless we achieve faster than light speed travel, or at least a method to travel further than light could travel within a set amount of time.
Earth won't have a full lunar eclipse for much longer (relative to the Earth lifespan), the moon moves further from Earth every year. In fact, someday Earth will not have a moon.
Earth will always have a moon. The moon will only keep moving away untill a certain point then stop. And by the time it even reaches such point our sun will be a blazing red giant smile.gif

Indeed, I believe you're correct, I guess there is nothing else close enough to draw the moon away from the Earth's gravitation pull before the time that the Sun consumes both it and the Earth. Barring that event the moon would likely eventually drift off and stop orbiting the Earth.
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That is a pretty arrogant assumption to make, very christian
I'm not overtly keen on conspiracy theories, but i'm of the opinion that most of the hi-tech advances that "humans" have made in the last 65 years are reverse engineered from an original alien design - low voltage microprocessor technologies in particular wink.gif
Designing a spacecraft that could travel to this planet or discovering a form of interstellar transport is hindered by any number of potential hiccups,, Cost, Scientific advances (also cost) Commercial Viablility (Cost) and life support, resource recycling. I think a lot of the physics advances are going to depend on the LHC experiements, trying to prove the existence of the Higgs Bosun - in order to validate the standard model..
All that in a backdrop of economic uncertainty - cut backs on science research etc - The only realistic way that we could get the technology to that level would be if we were in a WW2 situation - where scientific advances weren't held back such a flimsy excuse as cost

I'm not a conspiracy theorist.... but it was aliens.


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Frankly, it's pretty insulting to the thousands of scientists and engineers that have made modern life possible through millions of man-hours of hard work to say that they just copied it all from aliens. John Bardeen is spinning in his grave.
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