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Nuclear Propulsion = continuous thrust. Combine that with an ION drive for beyond continuation of travel and we could get there before the Earth dies... possibly.
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/Nuclear%20Propulsion%20Choices%20for%20Space%20Exploration.pdf

Earth is unlikely to die, it is FAR more likely that we cause Earths environment to be un-inhabitable for HUMAN life. So in reality, if we buck up our ides, we do not need to rush to another planet for survival lol.
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Nuclear Propulsion = continuous thrust. Combine that with an ION drive for beyond continuation of travel and we could get there before the Earth dies... possibly.
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/Nuclear%20Propulsion%20Choices%20for%20Space%20Exploration.pdf

Earth is unlikely to die, it is FAR more likely that we cause Earths environment to be un-inhabitable for HUMAN life. So in reality, if we buck up our ides, we do not need to rush to another planet for survival lol.

It's pretty obvious, and still quite understated, that we cannot get to this planet with current technology.

It's not about finding a planet that we can get to, its about finding a planet that we, in the future, may get to. Archiving habitable planets for the future science.

Some day, and that some day will come, when we get the technology to travel planets like these, we may just have already found Earth 2 for the future Earthians.

That is to say that we don't run the human race into extinction before we become at least a Type I Civilization.


Edited by kennyparker1337 - 2/4/12 at 8:08am
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Earth is unlikely to die, it is FAR more likely that we cause Earths environment to be un-inhabitable for HUMAN life. So in reality, if we buck up our ides, we do not need to rush to another planet for survival lol.

I reckon it's too late India and China will eventually outstrip every other country competing for the little commodities there are on this planet. Combine that with the prospect of massive areas of land being rendered uninhabitable by global warming or a nuclear war..
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We can get to this planet with current technology. It's just a rather distasteful technology; nuclear pulse propulsion using existing thermonuclear weapons. Perfectly feasible and even demonstrated with conventional explosives. It's just frowned on because of the whole nuclear aspect. And it would be too expensive and politically risky for any nation to do on its own, and no nuclear power would share its weapons with another for something like this.
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We have no way to get to that planet without faster than light travel, we're looking at planets like this for signs of life, and to learn about other planets in general. If humans manage to live on Earth a few billion more years they will have no choice but to colonize in another star system, unless we can manage to reverse a star's death.
Well, I think the trick here is not really to "travel" in the traditional sense of traveling where you physically move from point A to point B. The trick would actually be for you to stay stationary and fold the space around you instead to move the point B to you, if you are sitting at point A. This is all still theory though and nothing more. I think that it will be a long time before anything like this becomes feasible, if it ever does.
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Imma gonna bet it will take them probably another few centuries to get a way there. I mean just look how far tech has come, even in the consumer industry, from pixels and pixels into Retina displays and high tech gaming, from black and white silent films to 1080p movies in 7.1 surround, from the time we worshipped the first person going onto the moon into the beginning of space tourism, all this in a span of half a century give or take.
As long as fuel doesnt run out....
I think that your assessment is pretty optimistic and it also assumes the current rate of progress in the society will continue and possibly even accelerate over time. I am also not convinced in the feasibility of the proposed technological singularity or indefinite progress. There are always setbacks that you run into along the way that will surely set us back in general, sometimes very significantly. The overall trend will be towards progress, but not at an ever-accelerating or even continuous pace. You even just have to look at the world around us as it is now. While a few countries on the planet have the ability to make huge technological and scientific progress in general, most of the planet lives no better off or very slightly better than they did 100 years ago or even more.
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We can get to this planet with current technology. It's just a rather distasteful technology; nuclear pulse propulsion using existing thermonuclear weapons. Perfectly feasible and even demonstrated with conventional explosives. It's just frowned on because of the whole nuclear aspect. And it would be too expensive and politically risky for any nation to do on its own, and no nuclear power would share its weapons with another for something like this.
Oh come on... rolleyes.gif For a little background, look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion. Even if you could travel 10 - 20 times as fast as you do today, it would still take you 40,000 years to get there, vs. current 400,000. What's the difference?! Conventional travel will never work in this sense.
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Even if you could travel 10 - 20 times as fast as you do today, it would still take you 40,000 years to get there, vs. current 400,000. What's the difference?! Conventional travel will never work in this sense.

I think it comes down to technology that is still in its theoretical bounds. Like Loopholes in time/Creating wormholes in spacetime.
    
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We will never see this planet in any sense. That's a digital photo of what it might look like. I dont care who you are, there's no way in hell you could know if its exactly habitable. taking 500,000 years to get there makes no sense to me. We will never get there so what's the point in this information. Cool, yes. Habitable? How can it be habitable if you cant get to it.
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We will never see this planet in any sense. That's a digital photo of what it might look like. I dont care who you are, there's no way in hell you could know if its exactly habitable. taking 500,000 years to get there makes no sense to me. We will never get there so what's the point in this information. Cool, yes. Habitable? How can it be habitable if you cant get to it.

Wait.... no... wait...


I mean, REALLY?
    
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My concern is the gravitational pull of a planet 4 times the size of earth. Could be pretty hard to walk, land, take off, drive or transport with that much pull.
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