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Asked a person in the know and was told to take this with a grain of salt.
When asked if it will outperform the 7970 all they responded with was "trust me, it's worth the wait".

What'd you expect them to say, it's gonna suck??
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post #102 of 144
not even trying to sounds plausible, cheap fake
sry my english smile.gif
post #103 of 144
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Originally Posted by JonnyBigBoss View Post

Why do people even bother looking at non-confirmed sources? You're better off doing something productive than looking at random and fake information.

Maybe follow your own advice? thumb.gif
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post #104 of 144
^^ lol well said thumb.gif
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post #105 of 144
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Well it boils down to whether the specs are rumors or not is that Nvidia needs to come out swinging hard with this next version because AMD has their refresh 8000 series card planned for December. Six months later.
Nvidia doesn't have Maxwell planned until 2013. So Nvidia has to be able to compete right off the bat with AMD's next line or it will be a swing and a miss for Nvidia if they're not thinking ahead and looking at the big picture.
Let's say Nvidia comes out with a line that's 30% better than AMD's current. We've seen refresh 2nd gen cards get about a 15-25% bump in performance. Nvidia can stay on par with AMD's 8000 line and they won't have to focus with a refresh themselves until Maxwell. Hopefully will allow them time to focus on a launch that coincides with their competition when new fabrication chips come out.
AMD releasing their Southern Island three months before Nvidia even peeks out of the box is a huge advantage for AMD and boosting AMD sales easily. Great strategy, albeit at the cost of very immature drivers as we're finding out are the case, not being entirely ready themselves. Hardware yes, software not so much so.
In all it's good for us as consumers when we have AMD vs Nvidia competition for better pricing. Right now it's a one man show and premium prices IMO. biggrin.gif

^ I agree with this.


Problem for me is I will wait until Ivy bridge is out anyway to see if the PCIE 3.0 slots actually increase performance significantly. The other thing is I was really not thrilled with the price of the 7xxx series. but with Nvidia not competing yet AMD can charge whatever they want.

The 580 was always over priced. Its probably closer to the price it SHOULD have been now.

I doubt any of these cards we're paying so much for now will have the staying power of the 8800GT We'll see but Im skeptical to see a card last 5 years again. There are still people running the ultras. GOOD lord.
 
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post #106 of 144
i hope for amd that this chart is fake if not AMD got own :S

edit: the price means nothing the goal is too have more power so later on we can have that power everywhere Cellphone for exemple.so why not accept the price and enjoy ourself evolving in technologie?
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post #107 of 144
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^ I agree with this.
Problem for me is I will wait until Ivy bridge is out anyway to see if the PCIE 3.0 slots actually increase performance significantly. The other thing is I was really not thrilled with the price of the 7xxx series. but with Nvidia not competing yet AMD can charge whatever they want.
The 580 was always over priced. Its probably closer to the price it SHOULD have been now.
I doubt any of these cards we're paying so much for now will have the staying power of the 8800GT We'll see but Im skeptical to see a card last 5 years again. There are still people running the ultras. GOOD lord.

no wonder i can announce that to you the PCIE 3.0 will not increase performance significantly sorry braa thats just bandwidth for people with sli 4gb 3gb of GDDR and 3monitor. wich we dont see quite often
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This has to be fake...there's no way Nvidia could repeat the GTX200 to GTX400 move unless they are pushing these back until summer or later. I mean a GTX660 would be almost as powerful as a GTX580? But, it would be nice if they did manage to make this happen.
     
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don't be
it's been like this the past few generations
and why does it say stream processors?!
lol
690 is basically 2 670's?! (sorta) thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

I wasn't referring to editions that were added later, and "ripped off" versions of GPUs, but base VRAM versions. Example: GT 440 (512MB / 1GB), GTS 450 (1GB) / GTX 460 (1GB) / GTX 470 (1,25GB) / GTX 480 / (1,5GB), Or GTX 5xx series - GTX 550 Ti (1GB), GTX 560 (1GB), GTX 560 Ti (1GB), GTX 570 (1,25GB), GTX 580 (1,5GB), GTX 590 (3GB). This rule is also true about AMD - HD 6770 (512MB / 1GB), HD 6790 (1GB), HD 6850 (1GB), HD 6870 (1GB), HD 6950 (2GB) and so on.
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^ I agree with this.
Problem for me is I will wait until Ivy bridge is out anyway to see if the PCIE 3.0 slots actually increase performance significantly. The other thing is I was really not thrilled with the price of the 7xxx series. but with Nvidia not competing yet AMD can charge whatever they want.
The 580 was always over priced. Its probably closer to the price it SHOULD have been now.
I doubt any of these cards we're paying so much for now will have the staying power of the 8800GT We'll see but Im skeptical to see a card last 5 years again. There are still people running the ultras. GOOD lord.

Read this recent review from Anandtech. It`s a good read and will answer your question regarding 2. or 3.0:
Anandtech

Short story:
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Ultimately what is clear is that 8GB/sec of bandwidth, either in the form of PCIe 2 x16 or PCIe 3 x8, will be necessary to completely feed the 7970
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But how about existing Sandy Bridge systems that can only support PCIe 2? As it turns out things aren’t quite as good.

Moving from PCIe 2 x16 (8GB/sec) to PCIe 2 x8 (4GB/sec) does incur a generally small penalty on the 7970. However like most tests this is entirely dependent on the game itself. With games like Metro 2033 the difference is non-existent, while Battlefield 3 and Crysis only lose 2-3%, and DiRT3 suffers the most, losing 14% of its performance. DiRT3’s minimum framerates look even worse, dropping by 19%. As DiRT3 is one of our higher performing games in the first place the real world difference is not going to be that great – it’s still well above 60fps at all times – but it’s clear that in the wrong situation only having 4GB/sec of PCIe bandwidth can bottleneck a 7970.

Finally if we take one further step to PCIe 3 x2 (2GB/sec), we see performance continue to drop on a game-by-game basis. Crysis, Metro, Civilization V, and Battlefield 3 still hold rather steady, having lost less than 5% of their performance versus PCIe 3 x16, but DiRT 3 continues to fall, while Total War: Shogun and Portal 2 begin to buckle. At these speeds DiRT3 is only 72% of its original performance, while Shogun and Portal 2 are at 81% and 92% respectively.

Ultimately what is clear is that 8GB/sec of bandwidth, either in the form of PCIe 2 x16 or PCIe 3 x8, will be necessary to completely feed the 7970. 16GB/sec (PCIe 3 x16) appears to be overkill for a single card at this time, and 4GB/sec or 2GB/sec will bottleneck the 7970 depending on the game. The good news is that even at 2GB/sec the bottlenecking is rather limited, and based on our selection of benchmarks it looks like a handful of games will be bottlenecked. Still, there’s a good argument here that 7970CF owners are going to want a PCIe 3 system to avoid bottlenecking their cards – in fact this may be the greatest benefit of PCIe 3 right now, as it should provide enough bandwidth to make an x8/x8 configuration every bit as fast as an x16/x16 configuration, allowing for maximum GPU performance with Intel’s mainstream CPUs.

Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/4/12 at 10:47am
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