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Hey guys and girls.

Just started folding. I have one machine at the moment that is folding when it's on which is about 10 hours of the day. It is the i7-2700k @ 4.8ghz and then the two 7970's running in GPU mode as well.

Soon I'll have my old machine set up folding 24/7 while doing a ton of other file sharing functions. This machine has a i7-930 @ stock and a 5870 so that should be a little PPD I would assume ( I really have no idea)

And last but least I have couple of instances of HPSC running folding as well.

Are there any beginner hints? Tips? Ideas?

Etc help me out ( Yes I'm folding for overclock.net)

Thanks!
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Well the first hint, when you register for the February foldathon specify me for the referral smile.gif

Which clients are you using for all your hardware? What's your PPD looking like?
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Hello, thanks for folding, and welcome aboard hellboy! smile.gif

As far as tips go you'll want to know that folding on AMD GPUs isn't a bad thing to do but they aren't very efficient for folding in terms of performance/watt and they also use up a lot of CPU processing power to fold on. The efficiency isn't a big deal unless you are really concerned with your power bill, because even though AMD GPUs aren't great at folding they still contribute, but because of the CPU time they use though most would recommend dedicating 2 CPU cores to them if you want to fold on them consistently. The way you would do this is only fold on 6 of your 8 threads which you would accomplish in different ways depending on what CPU client you were using, so if you give us that information we can tell you how to do it. You can verify the fact that AMD GPUs use a lot of CPU power by looking at your processes in task manager and seeing what the two processes running for the GPUs are using. With the amount of CPU time they are each using you should actually get better performance out of your CPU's folding by having it only fold on 6 cores that are free rather than 8 that are constrained by the GPUs.

Second tip I would give you is to install a virtual machine of linux for your CPU folding. A linux VM will increase your CPU's performance because even going through a virtual machine the linux OS is much better for folding that windows because by comparison windows is bloated and a less direct access path between the folding client and the actual CPU hardware. Here is the Linux VM guide I used and like. Based on whether or not you want to fold the GPUs at the same time as folding the CPU or not, then we would either set it up to run on all 8 threads or just 6 of your CPU.

Let us know a little more info about how you want to use the machine for folding, mostly just whether or not you want to run the GPUs and CPU or just CPU, and we can help you get set up to get the most out of what you have available to you.
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Thanks guys.

I'll have no problem setting up the VM and doing all of that. (Network admin by day)

I'm running the V7 client on Windows 7 ultimate 64bit.

I can easily manage to run more then one VM if need be, I have the ram!

I'm not worried about any sort of power issue, I currently don't pay it so I going to start leaving it on 24/7 unless I'm gaming of course. PPD is all over the place. Some WU's it gives me an eta of about 8k per GPU and the CPU @ circa 6-8k. Never seems to end on that much though.

If I dedicate the 2 cores to the GPU folding client, will I still have enough power for the VM and web use etc while folding?

I already registered. I have been following you in the folding lounge though. But I put down overclock.net as mine tongue.gif
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Great, good to hear that you're both a network admin (familiar with computers) and not concerned about the power bill, that will make it easier to mold you to fit our machinations. biggrin.gif

Alright so what we're going to do is we're going to have the v7 client folding for just both of your AMD GPUs and not your CPU (see here to make sure you have the v7 client set up correctly for your AMD cards), and the VM I linked you to with 6 out of 8 threads folding your CPU. First before installing the VM go into your BIOS or UEFI and make sure that virtualization is enabled then follow the guide as normal until you get to the web setup page, at that point you want to deviate from the guide to change 8 cores to only 6, you do not want bigadv checked, and you want your kernel to say sandy bridge instead of regular i7.

Only changes you'll need to make to the above intrustions for when you do the other machine is the kernel should be just i7 and not sandy bridge, you will still want only 6 cores folding even for one AMD GPU. Each AMD GPU does usually use less than 12.5% of an i7 but there are problems with some work units failing when folded on an odd number of cores, so it's best to just stick to 6 cores if folding AMD or to forgo folding the AMD GPU and do 8 cores of CPU. You can test around with each combination to determine which works and performs best for you and monitor results with HFM.

Other than that I would install HFM to monitor your HPCS and the VM if you haven't already (HFM is incompatible with v7 though) and you should be all set up and good to go. Let us know if you run into any issues or have any questions.
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post #7 of 20
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Ok so that's all done. Quick and easy after a full day of work.

However getting confused on one bit, how do I set the gpu's each of them to be using the correct amount of threads, would that be in, advanced, slots edit then changing it to 2 each or 6 each?

Other then that just getting the linux part finished up and then should be all good to go and should get some good folding in tonight as I'll leave it on when I goto my second job.

Sucks being 19.
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The GPUs just use as much CPU as they need, the fix that we did is in the CPU VM set up we restrict the CPU folding to only 6 cores (changed down from 8) leaving 2 cores that will be used by the GPUs as needed leaving a little left idle. The only special GPU set up you need is this which you'll need to do once for each of your two GPU slots and tells your v7 GPU client to get work units that are designed for AMD GPUs. Anything else? Before you leave make sure that your CPU usage in task manager is at 75% or higher, and that your GPUs are at full load.
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post #9 of 20
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OK so linux Vm is up and folding at full, gpus are maxed out with a estimated ppd of just over 9000 (yes really) though thats still using the old WU.

I think it should be pretty much right, though this isn't my 24/7 folder so it will flucate with when I'm playing SWTOR / BF3 / Saints row.

Anything else?

BTW, thanks for the perfect help smile.gif
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That's looking pretty good, actually better than I expected out of the GPUs but to put it in perspective that's about what a stock GTX460 gets and my 580 gets almost 19K PPD tongue.gif

What is your CPU usage looking like? Open task manager and go to process. You should have VMware-vmx using almost exactly 75%, two instances of FahCore running at maybe 5-10% each and that should total up to about 85-95% total CPU usage, with about 5-15% system idle process right? If it's drastically different than that then post what each of the values are for VMware, the two FahCores, and your system idle process.
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