Originally Posted by jomama22
First off i will say "u" if i please. If you want propoer edicate go type on the dictionary forums, im typing on a cell phone so i will do what is easiest. This is not the place for the grammer police.
Second, by sending ur chips in you are doing 2 things.
First, you are making a price drop impossible. You think intel will listen to all the screams about over priced hardware when thousands of people (mostly home users who dont even know what vd-t is)vtry and get a replacement chip? Hell no. This is part of the reason computer hardware is becoming more expensive. Obviously if your chip is truly messed up then by all mean rma it, But when people cry that they can only hit 4.5 ghz, thats just rediculous and would probably turn into hilarious irony when they get a c2 that only does 4.4.
Second, you are killing supply with these returns. Obviously no one cares if the guy next door can get achip or not if you have one already. But this just influences price hikes like you see on amazon.
You have to understand, your one little meaningless return affects many more people.
Its like people trying to rma their 7970's cus they wont overclock to 1200 mhz when they believe 95% of chips do. Its boarderline insane.
Unless you are typing on a phone with a keypad it takes no more time for you to type you than it does to abbreviate it. Obviously nobody can stop you from typing like that but by typing like that it is much harder to understand the point(s) you are trying to make.
PC hardware is not becoming more expensive. Intel CPUs have retained very stable pricing structure since the Pentium 4 days and before. The high end P4 cost 1000 dollars in 2004, no less than the 3960X in nominal terms. In real terms, taking into account inflation, the P4 would cost about $1200 in 2012 dollars.
Do you honestly think Intel cares what people are crying about when they have a virtual monopoly? They charge, and will continue to charge, as much as the market will bare. Despite people saying that X79 chipsets and CPUs are overpriced we see a distinct shortage.
I hardly think a company as large as Intel is sourcing from the same batch of ships for RMAs and Retail/OEM Sales. I am absolutely sure that there is a demarcation of supplies such that Intel estimates that x percent of C1 owners will RMA their chips and therefore sets aside an appropriate number of chips. Moreover, Intel does not directly sell to the consumer, nor does it sell directly to companies like Newegg. The price hikes you are seeing would happen even if nobody chose to RMA their chips; it is more than likely that Intel would simply write off the lower amount of returns as a profit on their income statement and produce less chips. By not RMAing the only thing you are helping is Intel's bottom line and hurting your potential resale value.
The example you give with the 7970 is completely different. AMD, and the AIB partners, make no guarantee as to how their chips/cards will overclock, there is no grounds to RMA the a 7970 for that reason and it is likely that the consumer will get their card sent back to them and be out of pocket for the shipping charges. Intel has made it clear that it will replace C1 chips, there is no reason to not RMA if you do not have a golden chip. It is much the same situation as with the P67 "Cougar Point" chipsets; although people did not necessarily use the SATA points that could have potentially failed, it was still nonetheless to RMA.