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post #11 of 107
This is why I'm switching over to Intel. Intel, while more expensive, has faster CPUs, typically has better motherboards, their CPU's run well for many years, and on and on. I've really liked my AMD rigs over the years, but now it's time to move on.
post #12 of 107
Glad I switched to Intel before BD came out. It was a gamble, but all signs pointed, and still point, to AMD sucking bad. It's a shame, I'd like to see them at least moderately compete with Intel.
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sad ;( I still remember the old Athlon days, and AMD cpus were just so much fun to OC overall... I had an unlocked 'barton' core, much fun.
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post #14 of 107
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

I really wouldn't worry too much...Intel will want to make money. So they will have to make a product to compete with their older products. If they start making their CPU's not perform much better and price them too high people will run their systems into the dirt and only upgrade when it is absolutely needed. Meaning less sales for Intel.
I suppose they could very, very gradually creep up prices over time, but it would have to be very slow

I am more so concerned about constant die shrinks and high pricing that we saw during the Pentium 4 days. Pentium 4's were high priced with very little innovation.
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Originally Posted by OC'ing Noob View Post

I am more so concerned about constant die shrinks and high pricing that we saw during the Pentium 4 days. Pentium 4's were high priced with very little innovation.

yeah the innovation side of things might really be in jeopardy. I think we are already seeing it now. Turn the clock back a a couple years and I would not have been caught dead with a last gen CPU. Now my CPU is two gens behind and it really isn't that far behind in performance. Though I place a lot of blame on software for not giving me a reason to upgrade as well.
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post #16 of 107
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The desktop market is shrinking....
ARM + partners are Intel's biggest competition now. thumb.gif

I would love to see some Llano tablets personally. If they could get them under 7W that would be awesome.
post #17 of 107
Intel would not allow the AMD to stop making CPU's for desktops. As when the AMD would stop doing that the consumer protection agencies in EU and US would hurt the Intel plenty.

If the AMD gets their stuff togehter I'm sure some form of desktop segment would be present for AMD as well. Probably not very attaractive by the performance but who knows - some kind of Fusion chips with "good enough" bang for buck.

I find it hard to believe that AMD would give up on Opteron series without a serious fight and as collateral some kind of CPU's would go also into desktop segment even if they are not Fusion.
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With Vishera, AKA AM3+ Piledriver, not releasing until 2013, it's pretty clear that AMD isn't even going to be competitive even in the mid range desktop CPU market. That is unless the mythical B3 stepping of Bulldozer comes out and provides some significant improvements, and I would seriously hope that Piledriver gets a revision before it hits the AM3+ socket.

In other news, AMD also said they're not going to be focusing on adding more cores. 8 is definitely plenty for now.

I know I shouldn't be calling doomsday, but let's face it. AMD is way behind now, and without another product coming until 2013 (probably early 2013, but that's still too long) and Intel releasing Ivy Bridge in April, Haswell in 2013 and 14nm Broadwell already "up and running in the labs," it's pretty clear that the CPU world will be completely dominated by Intel.

AMD would have to have massive improvements in x86 performance and the software industry would need to make significant strides towards increasing multicore utilization. Their more agressive roadmap is nice, but all this means is that they won't be falling behind as fast as they have been, as they still won't be able to catch up.
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You never know though...maybe five years from now we will all be rocking overclocked, liquid cooled tablets with AMD APUs in them that are DX14 capable and able to connect to external monitors for gaming on a 6X eyefinity spread.

If a tablet or other mobile platform could do that...I'd forget the desktop relatively quickly
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@Homeles

Vishera will be launched in 2012, according to the roadmap.
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