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Are you implying that AMD offers better bang for the buck right now, for the majority of the CPU market? If so, LOL.

In my current position financially, yeah they are the better bang for "my" buck.

I would really like for you to say otherwise, haha.
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In my current position financially, yeah they are the better bang for "my" buck.
I would really like for you to say otherwise, haha.

You can't even buy a 955 BE on Newegg anymore. The few Phenom IIs that are there still are going to disappear soon, so it's pretty hard to use a discontinued product in a "who's better for the money" argument.

Sandy Bridge Celerons and Pentiums are superior to equivalent offerings from AMD, which is funny given that AMD has previously been cited as the company to go for when you're on a budget. Even stock clocked i5s beat out overclocked FX processors.
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Depends on your source I guess...if you look at shipments from prebuilts, the number of new PCs have been shrinking. There has been evidence that more people are building their own machine these days, but not millions more.
All the while tablets have been increasing dramatically. So it doesn't take much guess work to figure out that it is a growing market.
My guess? The PC will likely shrink a little, but then people will realize they need a PC around to get the full experience out of their tablet and get one causing it to grow again and fall back into stagnation again. Tablets still have a ways to go before they will completely wipe out the standard home PC (read non-enthusiast)

I'll take my data from those that actively track shipments. I breathe this info day in day out over the last 10 years.

people seem to forget there is also the corporate side of CPU consumption.
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For $600~ you could get an Alienware Gaming Laptop with a GT 540 M. Or for bang on £600 you can get: http://www.ebuyer.com/340626-acer-aspire-5750g-laptop-lx-rmu02-194 <- That laptop is going to be better than any APU or IGP laptop. Hands down.
Me? I'd tell people to get the Intel system with a dedicated card thumb.gif Intel have better performing CPU's. I feel the trade off in CPU performance for the A4 isn't worth it and that's exactly what I'd tell my buddies if they asked me to build them a system. For £200-£250 I'd built an Intel i3-2100(£100), H67 motherboard (£50) and something in the range of a 440GT or a GTX460 (£50~£100) and that system would perform better than the A4 APU system. I just literally wouldn't do it any other way and I certainly wouldn't tell them about something inferior, yet cheaper because they're my buddies and I look after them (like wrestling my friend away from the "Order" button as he was about to buy a new PC last month. Everything was great except he was going to pay £200 for two HDD... I couldn't let him do it. I loaned him a drive until the prices normalised!... That was an AMD system, btw wink.gif I use Intel. I'd never try to push my own personal preference in there.. only performance). Anyway, for £500 that PC would be complete with PSU (Coolermaster 550W) any random case for around £50, HDD, £50 (or less,if they don't want a bigger one).
Anyway, the AMD APU's look good and do well in GPU performance. They'd be great for Office desktops or Internet cafés down to the cost (super cheap) but no-way in hell do I want this kind of stuff to proliferate into the Laptop and serious Desktop markets. Companies have the thing about dropping everything else in order to line themselves up with a fad. I'd hate to see a performance line of desktops with only actually one or two decent desktops because some fad like this got into the marketing teams head and now they all of a sudden thing everyone wants this.
AMD are clearly gearing this towards tablets and, hopefully, mobile phones and this is exactly the right place for this technology. I'm currently yearning for a Tegra 3 device, tablet, phone, whatever, I don't care. I just want one. I'm tired of the rubbish Qualcomm crap they're putting into phones and tablets these days. If AMD released something like this for tablets or phones it's sure to blow Nvidia's Tegra to pieces and given that AMD spin their own silicon and won't need to licence CPU's from ARM...



LOL...

 

What part of that^ laptop is mobile?

 

(effeciency is the key.)

 

 

 

post #105 of 107
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Well yeah, they never did compete with Intel. They've always been in the shadow, but what can you expect when you have a 1/100th of the funds?

You're obviously young and new to computers. The first San Diego cores were definitely superior to any of the Netburst chips, even comparing the $200 3700+ to the $1k EE models. There was definitely a time when it looked like David had a chance to slay Goliath. Conroe completely surprised the industry with its massive performance leap.
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LOL...

What part of that^ laptop is mobile?

(effeciency is the key.)



Herp, the $649 m11x. Derp, the fact that you can carry them in one hand.

Any more insight Mr Derp? That all depends on why you're buying the computer. A laptop is a mobile desktop. You want light and super portable? You want a netbook or tablet, which these CPUs are perfect for.
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