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Thinking beyond the desktop enthusiast arena, the general "desktop" market, as we know it, is on the outs. Especially with a mainstream OS developer extending out its hardware CPU architecture support, any "threat" intel might pose is easily quashed. Huge drives are being made toward lower power consumption, reduced heat output, smaller form-factor, and fewer components. The only thing like that which Intel has released within the last 3-5 years has been the Atom, and it's a disappointing contender. Intel might be king of the CPU power charts, but that only benefits less than 1% of the computer users in the real world.

I wonder if AMD will also be re-emphasizing the server market--except that's also experiencing an influx of ARM-based processors.

It'll be interesting to see how things go from here.
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I would LOVE a mini PC the size of Zotacs Nano's, with a more powerful APU in the future....don't game as much at all, so it'd be nice to have a really low power system that has a little horsepower for some basic visuals. Hope AMD succeeds here.
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Guess we'll be buying $500 6 core cpus for the next ten years sozo.gif
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sad news is sad....
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How can AMD focus on mobile if they have nothing on that? All the popular laptops (Macs) are Intel only, smartphones and tablets are not even x86, is AMD gonna go under?
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yeah the innovation side of things might really be in jeopardy. I think we are already seeing it now. Turn the clock back a a couple years and I would not have been caught dead with a last gen CPU. Now my CPU is two gens behind and it really isn't that far behind in performance. Though I place a lot of blame on software for not giving me a reason to upgrade as well.

^QFT, at work I run an AMD 955 quad core, and even during compilation, svn, IDEs, VMs, I very rarely see 4 cores at 50%, let alone 2 cores at 100% for the matter. 7zip multi-core archive is the only thing that really stresses this cpu...
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RE: [Techspot] AMD will focus less on desktop CPUs, more on mobile APUs

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If that is the case, there are no clear competitors for Intel in the desktop market?

The desktop market is shrinking....


ARM + partners are Intel's biggest competition now. thumb.gif

ARM is AMD's biggest threat, Tegra 3 netbooks.

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How can AMD focus on mobile if they have nothing on that? All the popular laptops (Macs) are Intel only, smartphones and tablets are not even x86, is AMD gonna go under?

AMD APU's are kicking butt in laptops. Rumor had it that MBA would have been an APU but AMD could not guarantee supply.


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ARM is AMD's biggest threat, Tegra 3 netbooks.

Netbooks are dying anyway. Tablets and ultraportables are squeezing them out


Tegra 3 and APUs are still in different performance classes anyway.
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/3/12 at 10:04am
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yeah the innovation side of things might really be in jeopardy. I think we are already seeing it now. Turn the clock back a a couple years and I would not have been caught dead with a last gen CPU. Now my CPU is two gens behind and it really isn't that far behind in performance. Though I place a lot of blame on software for not giving me a reason to upgrade as well.
I agree with this assessment. I was holding a lot of hope for LGA2011/X79 for instance, but it is utterly disappointing in terms of performance and innovation when compared to the LGA1366/X58 platform. Minor incremental increases in performance are all that we are seeing, probably primarily due to shrinks and improvements in the process more than anything else. I am sticking to the LGA1366 platform for a while still for this exact reason. Having said that, software does play a big part in it.
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^QFT, at work I run an AMD 955 quad core, and even during compilation, svn, IDEs, VMs, I very rarely see 4 cores at 50%, let alone 2 cores at 100% for the matter. 7zip multi-core archive is the only thing that really stresses this cpu...
Yup, continuing what I was saying above, most consumer software for general use is in a lot of ways already "maxed-out" in regards to the performance you can extract out of it. If you think about an average workday of an average desktop computer user in an office, it generally consists of email, document manipulation (notes, spreadsheets, presentations, etc.), and research (not scientific, rather "research" on the Net). There is nothing really to improve there in terms of performance as most dual core CPUs are good enough for all of these activities. Like right now, I am using a 6 year old laptop in my office, T7200 with 4GB of DDR2 memory and I am getting by just fine. The only upgrade I made to it personally was put in my own 120GB SSD. I can still do 90% of tasks on here without any issues. Improvements to software can certainly be made in CAD and graphics applications in general, IDEs and compilers, and some specialized R&D applications, but those certainly represent a very small segment of the overall users. Quite frankly, aside from games on desktops I cannot think of one thing that a general user would need that would truly require the horsepower of any of the more recent chips.
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post #30 of 107
Honestly, this is good news.

AMD needs to focus more on what's best for them instead of trying to stay in Intel's shadow.
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