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OK, before I come *unhinged* about the overnight package that I just received, I'd like to reach out to my fellow OCers for a quick sanity check.

I just opened up the SB portion of the EK waterblock, and I'm seeing something odd inside the port on the right (if you look at the top of the waterblock with the ports away from you/toward the top); inside the port on the right is a curved piece of metal that appears to be in the flow of the water.

The left port shows a similar piece of metal that makes up the sidewall. Is the metal in the right port *supposed* to form another sidewall, but instead it's malformed? See image below.

I had planned to mount this to the MB this weekend, but of *f#$#ing* course, it's now the weekend, the shop that I purchased this from is now closed, and EK is in frickin' Taiwan (or wherever the heck they are).

So, does anyone out there recall this with their waterblock? Please talk me down from this ledge. helpinghand.gif Thx!

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From the picture it looks like a burr from the plastic block.

However, the easiest thing to do is carefully sic your included allen wrench to the block and inspect it. That could very well be the 'jet plate' for the block. EK has a separate plate that changes the restriction pattern that flows onto the block itself. On the CPU block I believe that they include a couple of different plates.

Just be careful when you put it back together again. Those rubber rings are a pain sometimes to get to stay put.

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[ Is willing to bet it is just a jet plate. ]
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From the picture it looks like a burr from the plastic block.
However, the easiest thing to do is carefully sic your included allen wrench to the block and inspect it. That could very well be the 'jet plate' for the block. EK has a separate plate that changes the restriction pattern that flows onto the block itself. On the CPU block I believe that they include a couple of different plates.
Just be careful when you put it back together again. Those rubber rings are a pain sometimes to get to stay put.
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[ Is willing to bet it is just a jet plate. ]

Definitely metal (same height and thickness as sidewall around inside of left port.

As I just received this from Performance PC, I don't want to open the block and void the warranty (there's a sticker on the side where the nickel meets acetal).

* It's worth noting that the bulge is not solid, but just a thin piece of metal in the middle of the flow. My fear is that it will provide a shortcut from inlet to outlet.
Edited by mBrane - 2/3/12 at 3:24pm
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Well, first of all that sticker offends me. wink.gif That's not your fault though.

Does it rattle around in there? Can you see anything similar on EK's website from their photo collection? That might be another way way of seeing if that is normal. Is Performance PC willing to exchange the part as it stands -- or better yet, tell you if that is supposed to be there since they probably have a few there on a shelf. I still think it is a jet plate, but now I'm wondering if it has gotten out of position in transit. Something that could be resolved in 10 minutes if it weren't for that sticker.

EDIT: What specific model of EK block did you buy? That may help a bit more since you don't have your setup listed.

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Well, first of all that sticker offends me. wink.gif That's not your fault though.
Does it rattle around in there? Can you see anything similar on EK's website from their photo collection? That might be another way way of seeing if that is normal. Is Performance PC willing to exchange the part as it stands -- or better yet, tell you if that is supposed to be there since they probably have a few there on a shelf. I still think it is a jet plate, but now I'm wondering if it has gotten out of position in transit. Something that could be resolved in 10 minutes if it weren't for that sticker.
EDIT: What specific model of EK block did you buy? That may help a bit more since you don't have your setup listed.
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No rattle. Of course, no pics that show it at this angle. I paid $80 to get this crap overnight. Will need to wait (of course) until Monday. I want to spontaneously self combust.

I doubt they'll break the seal on the outer EK packaging for me (who would want to receive *that*?). I'm just screwed.

Model is indirectly in the title of this post (only acetal + EN block that they make for the Rampage IV Extreme). I believe it's an EK-FB Kit RE4.

Anyone out there that's installed this recently? There' gotta be a million of ya!
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Well, I am going to revise my statement of it being a jet plate for a number of reasons. The first being, EK also sells their blocks with clear tops. While they don't show everything, they do provide good hints as to what is happening inside a block. So with the model number you gave me, I was able to find the clear top version of your block. I honestly think you might be fine, and what you might be seeing is some machining to help guide the water. (It might be a revision for all I know.) You can see from the clear top there should be zero loose items or jet plates in the block. It also just runs in a big loop around the block and to the other side. I also now understand why they probably don't want you opening that block willy-nilly. That gasket looks like a pain to put back in place.

So yes, there is a sidewall in between the two ports. if there is a gap there, it's probably not a huge one and the path of least restriction (the channel) will get the most water.

< brainstorming >
I'm going to suggest that you actually try to use the block, but don't set it up in your computer, just get some bits of hose and run water through it. You could probably test this by using the tap turned way down, or by slowly pouring water into it from a cup. Put fittings on the block and using a cup pour water slowly into it until it comes out on the other side. Dump out the cup of water and then dump the water in the block into the cup. It should have some reasonable amount of liquid inside of it. If not,something may be wrong.

Hopefully someone here can confirm this, but I think you are ok.

Lastly, unless you have done this before, you sound like you are in a big hurry to do this. Don't be in a hurry. Bad things tend to happen when you rush this kind of stuff. I set myself back about 3+ weeks because I rushed and wasn't paying attention to details.

Good luck!

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Its pretty routine on the chipset and motherboard type blocks for the water channels to be smaller in width than 10mm that matches the barbs. I think you are worried about something intentional.

Occasionally you do find small machining shavings in blocks, but with cnc computer guided milling..it would be highly unlikely something would have a major chunk if metal in error.
    
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I appreciate the help, everyone. I probably seem like I'm in a rush, because I've spent months on modding my case, and finally the day arrived when I had the funds for the cool stuff. Socket 2011 is out, it's the leading edge of the wave, and I'm ready to put this thing to bed (and get to gaming!). This weekend was supposed to be the first without a Dremel and metal shavings, instead with electronics and blocks.

I went back to the block, which is mirror-like inside from the nickel. I probed around, and quickly realized that the extension of metal is really a complete shelf, not just a thin strip of metal on its side as it first appeared (the mirror effect gave this illusion). So, it's obvious to me now that this is "by design."

Prior to receiving my package, I was in a pissy mood from an earlier/unrelated customer experience at lunch time, and I was just too quick to chalk up the waterblock "anomaly" to more bad luck. Shame on me. That's where I *definitely* rushed things. Calmer minds prevail, I suppose. Again, thx to all!
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hi, my friend you dont need to worry because i've just bought the same block from overclockers.co.uk and saw the same thing, its a metal part which wont give us any problem..... i believe you are using it by now, how is it, does it works fine or is it giving you problem? plz reply to me back cus its really important!!!!!
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