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Okay, I'm upgrading my internet service from BT's standard up to 20Mbps (~12 actual) to Plusnet's up to 40Mbps fibre optic. I currently have the BT Home Hub 2.0A and will get the Netgear WNR1000 with my Plusnet service. I want something a bit more powerful that can be upgraded with third party firmware.

I currently only have two computers in the house but in the future the list of connected devices could look like this (order of importance/priority):

1. My gaming rig - Needs to have low ping and high throughput for gaming.
2. General household laptop - Reasonable web browsing and streaming for Mum.
2. PS3 - Use during sleepovers w/ my gaming rig.
3. Sky box - No idea.

I'd like a router fast enough to handle at least 3 of these devices at once. Ideally it would be dual band (have two antennas?). It also needs to have at least 4 LAN ports and I'd like it to be reasonable moddable as I'll probably install some active cooling biggrin.gif.

I'll set the price range at £50-100 ($80-160), I don't really want to spend £100 on a router but will if I have to, I definitely don't want to spend any more than £100.

I've found this Linksys E2100L, is it any good and will it meet my demands? Also a kind of 'dumb' question: Will it work here in the UK. It has 64MB of RAM and 8MB of flash, which is twice as much as the WNR1000 that is supported here, so it should handle my usage. it also has a 400Mhz processor.

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linksys E3000 flashed dd-wrt
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linksys E3000 flashed dd-wrt

Thanks, can you tell me what the difference is?
I know it has a 80Mhz higher clock speed and Gigabit ports.
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Thanks, can you tell me what the difference is?
I know it has a 80Mhz higher clock speed and Gigabit ports.

the linksys E2100L may have 2 antennas but is only single band smile.gif

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/31111-inside-story-linksys-e-series-and-cisco-valet

http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us/Routers/Linksys-Refurbished-E3000-RM-HighPerformance-Wirelessn-router_stcVVproductId110277857VVcatId543809VVviewprod.htm
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Thank you both for your help so far.
I'm sorry but I forgot to mention that I would also like to link up a printer to the router so that I can print from upstairs. The setup could look like this.

Top floor (attic):
Gaming PC --> 20m Cat6 cable --> router
PS3 --> wireless --> router

Middle floor (office):
Router
Printer --> 1m USB/Cat5e cable --> router

ground floor (living room):
laptop --> wireless --> router
Sky box --> 20m cat5e cable --> router

I assume that with a network compatable printer I can use USB or ethernet.
I've just read this review of the WNR3500L with DD-WRT installed and wont be buying that model.
After some browsing I've come across the Asus RT-N16 and like the look of it, it has a 480Mhz clock, 128MB of RAM and 32MB of flash. Surely this will offer better performance than the Linksys E3000. Please couls someone tell me which one would be better with DD-WRT?
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The benifits of ASUS RT-N16 is that it has 2 x USB ports so one could be used for print sharing and the other you can connect a USB extrnal drive for a network drive. the linksys has one USB so one or the other with the USB port. another thing is the Asus has 128MB of RAM and 32 MB of Flash compared to 64MB of RAM and 8 MB of Flash in the linksys.

Unfortunately even tho the asus has 3 anttenas and although the BCM4718 has a 5 GHz radio, asus didnt put in the extra circuitry so even flashed to dd-wrt, it will still only be a single band wirless where as the linksys has true dual band.

both are power by Broadcom BCM4718
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4718
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31058-asus-rt-n16-gigabit-n-router-reviewed

if your happy with just single band wireless, go with the Asus RT-N16, if you want dual band you will have to go with the linksys e3000 tho in-comparision the e3000 seems to benifit form wireless with dd-wrt over the lack of internal circuitry limiting the Asus..

this is just based on the two routers you are looking at smile.gif
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I'm happy with single band because I don't think all devices can take advantage of dual band can they? They need a wireless N receiver when most have G? The Asus' antenna can also be upgraded with more powerful one at a later date. I think I'll go with the Asus because it's core can do 533 and it has the extra RAM and flash. Thanks again.
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I'm happy with single band because I don't think all devices can take advantage of dual band can they? They need a wireless N receiver when most have G? The Asus' antenna can also be upgraded with more powerful one at a later date. I think I'll go with the Asus because it's core can do 533 and it has the extra RAM and flash. Thanks again.

your welcome and yes your right dual band only works aslong as the end device supports it smile.gif
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your welcome and yes your right dual band only works aslong as the end device supports it smile.gif

I'm not that bothered by wireless in general to be honest, I try to use wired even on a mobile device if possible.
Will I need a network friendly printer for router USB printing to work or could a good router like the N-16 do this automatically? I tried this with my Epson on my HomeHub but it didn't work, the computers in the house could see the printer but not use it.
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