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The OP really can't wait for anything as he is running a 5770. I would say get the 7950. It OC's well and is fractionaly slower then the 7970.
I went from an XFX5770 to a 6970 Lightning, RMA'ed 2 of them and ended up with this 580.
Night and day... the lightnings were sweet, loved the look and they ran great at stock, just OC'ed they failed with a modest 5% setting.
I feel the only real advantage with the AMD cards now is Eyefinity, other then that for single monitor displays I feel it comes down to budget and use requirements.
The 7950 has 3gig mem and 384bit GGDR5, that card will smoke everything you throw at it.
Live a little, grab the card and enjoy.
(if anyone is looking for another 5770, mine is collecting dust (not really, in an anti-static bag) in my closet, make an offer..)

I think I may just do that. Reading some reviews and from what I'm reading, the 7950 OC'd up to stock 7970 speeds runs within 5% of the performance and still has plenty of room to OC some more. Both the XFX Double D and Sapphire OC edition's are out of stock though so I think i'll wait a few days for them to restock so I can at least make sure I get one with the cooling needed for a good OC.
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Everyone including ATI new that the 2900XT was going to be a fail card. You should actually think about the 4870 vs the GTX 280. You could buy 2 4870's for $50 more than a single GTX 280 and have 60% more performance than the Nvidia GPU.
They cut prices on the GTX 280 instantly and then release the GTX 285 for the same $600 price tag as the GTX 280 originally. Right now, it's Nvidias fault the AMD card is priced this high. If the GTX 580 cost $350, the 7970 would cost only $400 or so and so on.
Don't try to point fingers at AMD for having the better bang for the buck in each generation since the "2900XT" series

best bang for buck?

GTS250 same price as HD4850 out preformed it

GTX260 216 same price as HD4870 out preformed it

GTX275 same price as HD4980 out preformed it

GTX460 same price as HD5830 out preformed it

So your point is moot lol
post #33 of 40
just wait til kepler then you can decide which gpu would be best, if the kepler rumor are you can get beastly card for $300 why not wait whats the rush. 5770 still great run most game the new on medium setting fine which is playable.
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I would wait for Kepler if you don't need to upgrade immediately.

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if u need physX for games go for nvidia(more benefit feature),,

if not, then just go for amd its not problem,,

its simple as that,,

both amd & nvidia GPU's deliver execellent & almost neck to neck performance at their low/mid/high-end gpu's level
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I would wait a couple of months.
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People say wait and see what comes out, whats around the corner..... the waiting game is silly.

So Nvidia releases their new series, all reference design, then people will say wait till MSI or Asus brings out the non-reference super-duper-OMG line... you can wait till the end of time for the next best thing...

Decide on your needs and set your budget and buy the best you can afford TODAY.
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People say wait and see what comes out, whats around the corner..... the waiting game is silly.
So Nvidia releases their new series, all reference design, then people will say wait till MSI or Asus brings out the non-reference super-duper-OMG line... you can wait till the end of time for the next best thing...
Decide on your needs and set your budget and buy the best you can afford TODAY.

What he said.

I built my computer in Nov 2011 with a Z68 motherboard and 2x570s. BF3 rolled out and stomped on all video cards that had less than 1.5gb vram and gpu power. I sold my 570s to get a 7970, but before that, I was thinking should I wait for Keplar? This was in January when the 7970s were fresh and people were talking about Keplar coming out "soon". I was like, I built this comp last year, the X79 motherboards are out, if I wait for Keplar, I might as well have never bought my Z68 build and started completely over.

I went ahead and grabbed two 7970 because like what Spct said, I would've kept waiting and waiting.
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People say wait and see what comes out, whats around the corner..... the waiting game is silly.
So Nvidia releases their new series, all reference design, then people will say wait till MSI or Asus brings out the non-reference super-duper-OMG line... you can wait till the end of time for the next best thing...
Decide on your needs and set your budget and buy the best you can afford TODAY.

I agree. I've had both Nvidia and AMD cards in the past and got the one that gave me the performance I needed at the time of my build. I'm building a new rig now. So I got a 7970. All we have are rumors on the Nvidia side and I can't build anything on rumors. Plus you'll drive yourself crazy with the waiting game. If kepler is so great when it comes out and AMD prices go down, what will you go for? Kepler? a better bang for the buck AMD card? and if rumors are true, it will not even be Nvidia top card so when the first kepler comes out why not wait a little more to see the top kepler card? By that time we will be a couple of months from the release of AMD 8000 series. You can go on and on...

Unless you love one company and hate the other, get the best card you can afford NOW.
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best bang for buck?
GTS250 same price as HD4850 out preformed it
GTX260 216 same price as HD4870 out preformed it
GTX275 same price as HD4980 out preformed it
GTX460 same price as HD5830 out preformed it
So your point is moot lol

You might want to revist the past buddy. Eh, I'll do it for you.

Your 4850 comment ""The XFX Radeon HD 4850 managed to edge out the EVGA GeForce GTS 250 for a slim 1% victory which was unexpected considering the XFX Radeon HD 4850 has a 15% lower clock speed and 5% lower memory speed. However the XFX Radeon HD 4850 does have some advantages and these are the 800 Pixel Shaders and DirectX 10.1 Support. The XFX Radeon HD 4850 was impressive running the latest demanding games like Fall Out 3, Left for Dead, Race Driver Grid and Far Cry 2 at very good performance. The performance between the XFX Radeon HD 4850 and EVGA GeForce GTS 250 was usually close that the only difference is going to be the price. The XFX Radeon HD 4850 is over 8% cheaper than the EVGA GeForce GTS 250 which makes the XFX Radeon HD 4850 great value for money and this is the reason I am recommending the XFX Radeon HD 4850 !"

Basically same speed or 1% faster and 8% cheaper than the GTS250 -- Nice try

This one will sum up the 4870 vs the GTX260 Core 216 -- http://www.hwcompare.com/1628/geforce-gtx-260-core-216-vs-radeon-hd-4870-1gb/
As for the price: GTX260 -- Street price: 279 - 299 USD
Radeon 4870 1gb -- US Price (as reviewed): $212.18 (ex. Tax)

Want me to keep going? Okay.

Radeon 4890 (not the 4980...***) vs the GTX 275 -- "In the head-to-head battle between Radeon 4890 and GeForce GTX 275, the 4890 manages to eke out ahead, but it’s definitely a close race."
Price: GTX 275 -- Price: $249
Radeon 4890 -- Price: $249 (Oh look a tie)


Lastly, the GTX 460 vs the Red side. Now, on this one, good sir, ATI was out on the market for a whopping 6months before they even released a card. The GTX 460 was over 8months on market before it came out. And from your "Comparisons" you listed, all you did was aim at Nvidia's 'counter' to ATI -- Like the GTX 260 core 216 vs the Radeon 4870 that was released... 6 months later... oh there it is.

This is what the OP was looking at, not something to counter another product a year later. It's here, it's now and that said. All of ATI's cards were out game day except the Radeon 4890 where the GTX 275 came out same time.

As for the GTX 460 vs the ATI 5830 -- I'll let you research that one thumb.gif
     
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