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So I'm going to mount an old Dell Dimension ATX system in my desk to use for a NAS.

I'm just wondering how much cooling I'll actually need?

The space I'm mounting in is 7" high, 23" wide and 12" deep. Wood on top, bottom and 2 sides. Thin plexi in the front, and I'm not sure what I'll use in the back.

P4 with a stock cooler, 1G RAM, on board video and 1 1.5tb 5400 RPM SATA HDD, eventually adding more.

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I was thinking about leaving the back open, but I don't know. I'm also looking for ways to make it look good since the front is plexi. I know it's a crappy system to display, but I already have the plexi on hand, and might eventually put my sig rig in there instead.

Suggestions? Ideas?
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A big fan? rolleyes.gif
Hard drives can run without fans, as they can take relatively high temps, I would just have some form of exhaust for all the hot air. Also keep in mind wood retains heat more than a PC chassis (I think)
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Just put 1 or 2 120mm fans in there to exhaust stuff ( 1 on each side) and I don't see why you would need anymore than that.
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so my gues is you are going to put plexi to cover that recess, aslong as it has ventilation holes then thats ok.. im not 100% sure on your dell case but i would have intake fan/s in the from and a nice exhaust fan in the back. as long as you have good ventilation through the plexi so the intak fans can work optimally then the cpu stock cooler should be fine... smile.gif
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Not to sound like an idiot or something, but you could get a NAS system without hard drives. That way, it would help keep the system temps down to just the HDDs with a rear exhaust fan. You could try QNAP systems if you don't need it for anything other than what it can already do. Just a suggestion, but other than that, get more fans. You could try positioning the fans blowing toward you, not to the back of the desk.
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Not to sound like an idiot or something, but you could get a NAS system without hard drives. That way, it would help keep the system temps down to just the HDDs with a rear exhaust fan. You could try QNAP systems if you don't need it for anything other than what it can already do. Just a suggestion, but other than that, get more fans. You could try positioning the fans blowing toward you, not to the back of the desk.

your not sounding like an idiot, something tilk a QNAP or my Synology design would work well

mine though cost about $800 without HDDs Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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so more bays can become expensive, but can find nice rackmount NAS cheap on ebay smile.gif
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My Qnap 212 works perfectly. Plus you can extend a raid or jbod via the 3 USB ports for added support. I bought it because it supports ext4 which allows volumes greater than 2TB. I have 2x 3TB drives in my machine and couldn't be happier! Of course... I built it before that dreaded flood...
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That was quick! Thanks for the replies.

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Originally Posted by royalflush5 View Post

A big fan? rolleyes.gif
Hard drives can run without fans, as they can take relatively high temps, I would just have some form of exhaust for all the hot air. Also keep in mind wood retains heat more than a PC chassis (I think)

The hard drives I'm not too worried about. I'll snag a drive cage from an old case I have laying around. Wood does retain more heat.
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Just put 1 or 2 120mm fans in there to exhaust stuff ( 1 on each side) and I don't see why you would need anymore than that.

I have a Scythe Ultra Kaze I was going to stick on the front, and use the fan from the Dimension case on the back. I think it's an 80mm.
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so my gues is you are going to put plexi to cover that recess, aslong as it has ventilation holes then thats ok.. im not 100% sure on your dell case but i would have intake fan/s in the from and a nice exhaust fan in the back. as long as you have good ventilation through the plexi so the intak fans can work optimally then the cpu stock cooler should be fine... smile.gif

The Dell case has one exhaust fan in the back only as far as I know. I was planning on cutting a full fan hole for the intake and exhaust.
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Not to sound like an idiot or something, but you could get a NAS system without hard drives. That way, it would help keep the system temps down to just the HDDs with a rear exhaust fan. You could try QNAP systems if you don't need it for anything other than what it can already do. Just a suggestion, but other than that, get more fans. You could try positioning the fans blowing toward you, not to the back of the desk.

How could I have a NAS without HDD's? I'm trying to do this on the cheap, which is why I'm using the Dell. I would use a much, much smaller mobo if I was to buy the parts for it, but I already have the Dell. (8 of them, actually. lol) I'm just going to use FreeNAS. I don't need an OS or anything, as it won't be used for anything more than a file server.
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That works, if you want to just put the Kaze in front and Dell in back. It really shouldn't need much cooling at all thumb.gif
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No, you buy the NAS system and add your own drives on the cheap. My Qnap 212 cost me like $180 on newegg. It is pretty much near instant set up plus it has a media server and a whole bunch of other features including FTP and web server. Way too many to mention, but it is flexible. Plus a friend of mine helped a friend install Ubuntu on it since it isn't a locked root on the machine. Just a thought.

$190: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822107063
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