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I have decided to go Mechanical! I prefer nonclicky complicated ALPS, but any other style of mechanical I can be alright with, so long as it is not loud. I have a $105 budget, as before. Thanks!
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Anyone?
Edited by azeem40 - 2/5/12 at 7:57pm
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Anyone?

you might as well try those two boards just to see if you like linear or tactile switches, then we can list more boards.
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Personal pick is the corsair k60, It runs cherry reds which are a bit clicky though, But I find them awesome for gaming.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816001

SFAIK, reds are basically a lighter to press black switch. I have a corsair K90 because I wanted the dedicated macro keys, otherwise I would of picked a K60. This board in the very least is beyond what I expected, It feels absolutely awesome. Alot of the features (media keys, Windows lockout, Programmable profiles) Really come in handy, Is built very well and looks dead sexy. The only difference with the K60 is the lack of the full palmrest, Lack of extra macro keys, No backlight on the K60 (which you did hint that you wanted unfortionately) and the K60 has some more cradles keys on the WASD and 1-5 number buttons to help keep your fingers in place.
    
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you might as well try those two boards just to see if you like linear or tactile switches, then we can list more boards.
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Personal pick is the corsair k60, It runs cherry reds which are a bit clicky though, But I find them awesome for gaming.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816001
SFAIK, reds are basically a lighter to press black switch. I have a corsair K90 because I wanted the dedicated macro keys, otherwise I would of picked a K60. This board in the very least is beyond what I expected, It feels absolutely awesome. Alot of the features (media keys, Windows lockout, Programmable profiles) Really come in handy, Is built very well and looks dead sexy. The only difference with the K60 is the lack of the full palmrest, Lack of extra macro keys, No backlight on the K60 (which you did hint that you wanted unfortionately) and the K60 has some more cradles keys on the WASD and 1-5 number buttons to help keep your fingers in place.
Sounds like a nice keyboard! The only thing I am skeptical about is the removable keys 1 to 6. Too much hassle.
Plus I live with my parents and they won't like the noise.
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I would recommend the Razer Blackwidow Stealth Edition ($80) or, if you can spare an extra few bucks the Ultimate version for back lit keys ($140). The Stealth Edition has cherry Brown keys which are halfway between the tactile typing blue cherrys and the gaming keys like cherry reds/blacks. The problem with cherry reds or blacks is they don't feel very good to type on compared to cherry browns or blues. Browns also don't make too much noise, but some noise is inevitable no matter which mechanical keyboard you get. The pros to reds and blacks are that there is no resistance halfway through the key, so you can double tap a lot faster since the key is registered on all cherry keys halfway before it bottoms out. The brown keys are a compromise between the gaming red/black keys and the typing blue keys, meaning that they have a little bit of tactile feedback when you type, but still work very well for gaming.

I personally have the normal Blackwidow, and I bought it before the stealth edition came out. Great features on both, but the stealth is definitely better for a gamer and as an all around board. For one, the board has a matte finish so it doesn't attract fingerprints, then it has cherry brown keys as I've stated above as opposed to my cherry blue keys (Love them for typing, just loud though) or the K60's red, then it also has a standard keyboard layout with 5 additional programmable keys on the left, then if you get the Ultimate version, you also have USB and mic/headphone jack on the side as well as backlit keys with different brightness settings. The drivers for the keyboard are also very good, where you have a programmable macro function that allows you to program your own macros to do several things at once that you can then key bind to one of the macro keys.

Hope this helps smile.gif
Edited by theloneplant - 2/6/12 at 1:41am
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I would recommend the Razer Blackwidow Stealth Edition ($80) or, if you can spare an extra few bucks the Ultimate version for back lit keys ($140). The Stealth Edition has cherry Brown keys which are halfway between the tactile typing blue cherrys and the gaming keys like cherry reds/blacks. The problem with cherry reds or blacks is they don't feel very good to type on compared to cherry browns or blues. Browns also don't make too much noise, but some noise is inevitable no matter which mechanical keyboard you get. The pros to reds and blacks are that there is no resistance halfway through the key, so you can double tap a lot faster since the key is registered on all cherry keys halfway before it bottoms out. The brown keys are a compromise between the gaming red/black keys and the typing blue keys, meaning that they have a little bit of tactile feedback when you type, but still work very well for gaming.
I personally have the normal Blackwidow, and I bought it before the stealth edition came out. Great features on both, but the stealth is definitely better for a gamer and as an all around board. For one, the board has a matte finish so it doesn't attract fingerprints, then it has cherry brown keys as I've stated above as opposed to my cherry blue keys (Love them for typing, just loud though) or the K60's red, then it also has a standard keyboard layout with 5 additional programmable keys on the left, then if you get the Ultimate version, you also have USB and mic/headphone jack on the side as well as backlit keys with different brightness settings. The drivers for the keyboard are also very good, where you have a programmable macro function that allows you to program your own macros to do several things at once that you can then key bind to one of the macro keys.
Hope this helps smile.gif

Thank you for the details!

I am considering buying this keyboard. What do you all think?
post #29 of 37
As an additional note, the type of keys that are the least loud are cherry red, cherry black, and cherry brown. My second picks for you if you end up not going with the Razer keyboard would be:

Corsair K60 - Cherry Red ($95)
Steelseries 6GV2 - Cherry Black but no macro buttons ($90)
Thermaltake G1 - Cherry Black but no macro buttons ($100)

Here's an order of the switches from tactile (left) to smooth (right):
BLUE -> BROWN -> BLACK -> RED

Blue is too clicky for you and may disturb your family, red is very good for gaming but feels empty to type on, black is like red, just with more resistance so there's less of a chance to mistype, and brown is like red (45g actuation) but also has a little bump on it when you type, which is why I recommend it.

There aren't too many brown cherry boards out there that are in your price range, one that I can name that's really good is the DasKeyboard Silent ($130), but it lacks both backlit keys and programmable keys.

It's relatively difficult to find a good mechanical keyboard with macro keys, there are only a select few like the K60/90 and the Blackwidow that come with it. It's just as difficult to find one that has both back lit keys and macro keys, such as the Blackwidow Ultimate or K90. Some of the K60/90 ergonomics I don't agree with, like media buttons, having 18 macro buttons, or the fact that not all of the K60/90 keys are actually mechanical. What they did there is they only set the most used keys (like the qwerty key area) to have mechanical switches, they didn't actually put mechanical switches under delete key section, the f-row, or the macro keys (under macro keys to have them lower down for ergonomics). They did do somethings right like use laser etched keys, space apart their macro keys, and include a very good wrist rest for you though so decide for yourself if those benefits outweigh the cons.

I prefer the Blackwidow because it retains the original keyboard layout and size, it has that matte finish, has mechanical switches throughout the board, and uses just enough macro buttons (5) for anything you could need. Some cons of the Blackwidow are that the ergonomics of the macro keys make it hard to ground your left hand where it should be, resulting in some slip ups in the beginning and having your left hand hit the wrong thing. I outgrew this con in a couple weeks from purchase so it shouldn't be a big deal. Another con is that it doesn't come with a wrist rest, which as you stated before isn't that much of an issue. Keep in mind the Blackwidow is also cheaper by about $15.

When it comes down to it though, every keyboard has its own pros/cons that you need to weed through to find which one suits your needs the most. Everything we're talking about is subjective and comes down to the person's own opinions and needs.

Hope this helped thumb.gif


EDIT: This is a good thread to look at as well:
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide
Edited by theloneplant - 2/6/12 at 12:46pm
post #30 of 37
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I suppose I can live without macro keys and just use AHK to make a key do something else. I am looking for a lot of advice here because I have ZERO experience with Mechanical Keyboards, but I do know that Cherry Brown is for me because the bump can help me improve my typing and gameage a lot. I can go up on my budget if need be, since I now have a job to afford a real quality mechanical keyboard, but I'd only be able to go up by $45 ($150 budget), no more.
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