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Curious as to how old was the article.

August of 2010, as you can see here.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-crossfire-nvidia-sli-multi-gpu,2678-5.html

Do you think the charts would differ with more modern GPU's?
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Here's a video showing that the difference is very miniscule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFMzRZqFh-w

The difference in score was 0.0001 in 3DMark. Also the video is more recent, from April of 2011.
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August of 2010, as you can see here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-crossfire-nvidia-sli-multi-gpu,2678-5.html
Do you think the charts would differ with more modern GPU's?

Yes but not by much. I would love to see how well 2 x 7970's would run using 8x compared to 16x.

Edit:
Here is a better answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IgkwSjA8sH0#t=354s
Edited by Ragsters - 2/3/12 at 10:05pm
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Your friend's EVGA GTX460 has to be double slot width and so you should have no problem fitting it into your mATX Maximus IV GENE-Z.

 

See my illustration below:-

corsair-600T-10-l.jpg

There are several versions of the EVGA GTX460 and so I do not know for certain.  But most likely it is the one with a central fan.  Regardless, there is ample space (thin blue line) inside the Corsair 600T.  So, I expect no spatial problem, length wise and width wise.

 

One thing to watch is the temperature of the 2 cards, especially the card in the top position.

 

As both cards are dual slot width, there will not be an empty slot space in between them, making the top card to have a hard time to inhale air.  Additionally, as both card exhaust hot air bi-directionally (red arrows), there is a high chance that the hot exhaust will be recirculated back into the cards' intake fan(s).  The card in the top position is susceptible to this non-desirable effect and will be thus affected more negatively.

 

As a result, you keep an eye on the temp of the cards.  And as the 2 cards have different cooling design, it is also beneficial to switch them around to see if you can have a better thermal performance.  That is, you might want to try putting the EVGA to the top slot and the MSI to the bottom slot to see if this arrangement yields a better thermal result.

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Your friend's EVGA GTX460 has to be double slot width and so you should have no problem fitting it into your mATX Maximus IV GENE-Z.

See my illustration below:-
600x480px-LL-669550c3_corsair-600T-10-l.jpeg


Wow, thanks so much for all the help and illustration! I see that there will be no problem fitting both cards into the board, but bad cooling issues. Is there any easy way around it?

Thanks!!
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I have the same board and have asked the same question. For me seeing was believing, although I did believe others. As you can see I have 2 MSI cards in there and they are pretty fat cards. What I did was before you screw down the cards they have some wiggle room. Slightly move the top card to the top and the same for the bottom card. That created a 1/4" gap for me. Then I used some foam spacers and then screwed the cards in. I also added 2 120mm fans in the hdd bays for extra cool air. I do have mine oc'ed quite high but it works. I had to get creative on the cpu cooler (huge) but my load temps are fine and the board is fantastic. Check out the Asus Maximus Gene thread (link in my sig), you can really find any answer you need pertaining to this board.

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Wow, thanks so much for all the help and illustration! I see that there will be no problem fitting both cards into the board, but bad cooling issues. Is there any easy way around it?
Thanks!!

The 2 main goals to achieve are:-

1) to force air into the gap between the 2 cards

2) to separate the incoming path(s) of cool air and the exhausting path(s) of hot air so that there is no cross-pathing

 

This is not an easy task.

 

-One way is to use a side panel fan to funnel air into the gap. Unfortunately the 600T does not have a side panel fan in its stock configuration. You can buy the optional side panel with window/mesh but this involves additional cost.  If cost is not considered, I would prefer this method as I see there is relatively less hot air exhausting out via the card's length than via the card's front. This means, the chance for air cross pathing is less.

 

-Alternatively, you can tied a 120mm fan to the side of the harddisk cage and force air into the gap from this direction. However, forcing air from the front has its obstacle to overcome. The incoming air will run head-on against the exhausting air from both cards, potentially driving the hot air back toward the cards.  To overcome, you can use a (self-made) funnel to channel air into the gap, thus separating the 2 paths. See pic below for illustration.

corsair-600T-10-l.jpg

 

-Even the ventilation is not too desirable and the thermal numbers will not be very pretty, I do think think it is serious enough to cause BSODs.  Just try switching the 2 cards around.  And, try using this additional fan.


 


 

 

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Wow thanks loads guys, you helped me so much! I think I'm going to try mounting a fan beside the cards for some extra cooling. Does anybody have a suggestion for what brand to go with? Probably a 120 or 200mm fan?
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Wow thanks loads guys, you helped me so much! I think I'm going to try mounting a fan beside the cards for some extra cooling. Does anybody have a suggestion for what brand to go with? Probably a 120 or 200mm fan?

120x38mm Ultra Kaze fans. Talk about pushing some air. I run 2 on the sides and they help out a ton.
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