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Originally Posted by Denim-187 View Post

Lolll more buthurt folk... Please keep me fed ^___^

I would... but your appetite is endless. Don't think I can feed you enough 1s and 0s w/a cpu w/o HT. Good luck! wink.gif
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Originally Posted by charleswrivers View Post

If 70 vs 67 fps w/a 100 Mhz handicap is what you're going to hang your hat on to say a 2500k is far inferior to a 2600k based on HT... you lost your argument when you started. For someone w/a 60 hz monitor, like me... it wouldn't have mattered anyways.
What ever happened for bang for the buck? (blows the dust off his 4 year old $200 Q6600). 3.8 Ghz baby! Is it as fast as your 2700k? Nope. Not even close. Does it matter? Nope... not to me
The 2500k is, when folks were building gaming rigs this past year intels best bang-for-the-buck offering. If you want more frames... save the $100 and spend it on a better GPU. I see
I may finally go on the IB wagon when it rolls around. Things like USB 2.0 vs. 3.0, Sata II vs Sata III for SSD, DDR2 vs DDR3 are driving forces as much as the CPU. Even when that happens, a 3570k @ $225 will likely be what I spring for vice a 3770k for $332. I'd rather put the cash in a higher tier GPU... or larger Sata III SSD...
You should have spent the $100 on more than a 60 GB SSD, silly rabbit. Even my antique has a larger SSD than that. Enjoy uninstalling games when you want to install something new. thumb.gif
Great thread guys. I've been starting reading up on computer stuff again to try to start learning IB stuff for a new build and happened upon this gem.

why would you uninstall games my games are all installed on my raid array not my SSD, my SSD holds more important things that see a bigger improvement, like windows, webbrowsers, media players ect.

as for you denim, quite honestly your a troll not really sure why a mod hasn't come along yet, because you are way out of line, you like your 2700k thats nice, I like my 2500k under water, and quite honestly I don't give a damn what you, or anyone else thinks of my rig, because your not the one using it, and given how much you actully know i wouldn't let you within 100feet of my rig, out of fear of you using that pee brain and destroying something.
Edited by TheSandman - 2/4/12 at 8:54pm
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Please don't bother posting in this thread if you don't have anything valuable to add.


I'm still awaiting results from OP regarding more conclusive tests (thank you for the two in the OP), more importantly with a few more titles if possible and more gpu-z and cpu-z screenie's too.

Just one question, how about Crysis 2, uses HT?


Cheer's.
Edited by munaim1 - 2/4/12 at 8:58pm
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My laptop with an i5 definitely is having its HT being used in BF3. They do not load as high as the real cores, but they are being used.
   
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Yeah, without more info those screens don't count as concrete evidence. The usage graph looks very similar to a "vsync on"/"vsync off" comparison; you need to get your fps in there somewhere (along with other information), in order for this to be undeniable proof.
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2500K is $230, 2600K is $280.....to me that's worth paying the extra for the 20% performance. The fact that I got my 2600K for $200 makes my 2600K that much more bang for the buck. Haven't had any glitches with HT so why not have 8 threads instead of 4.

BTW this thread is for those comparing the 2500K and 2600K, which means they have the money for the 2600K. Want to see more side by side benchmarks though!
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2500K is $230, 2600K is $280.....to me that's worth paying the extra for the 20% performance. The fact that I got my 2600K for $200 makes my 2600K that much more bang for the buck. Haven't had any glitches with HT so why not have 8 threads instead of 4.
BTW this thread is for those comparing the 2500K and 2600K, which means they have the money for the 2600K. Want to see more side by side benchmarks though!

You can't compare prices of retail for one product and discounted of another.

I'm not going to argue that HT makes things worse, however, 2500K is by no means useless as the title suggests. Also, its one thing to have the money to be able to buy a 2600K and another to have unlimited funds. For a certain budget, a 2600K would take $100 out of other parts, for an unlimited budget that issue is not there. If you have a $1000-1500ish budget, $100 could make a big difference in the graphics card(s) you get, and that will make much more of a difference than HT will since you are much more likely to be GPU bound.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a 2500K is somehow superior to a 2600K, or that a 2600K is somehow bad. However, saying the 2500K shouldn't be recommended anymore (like the title of this thread) is just absurd.
    
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most games are built around 2 year old hardware and console ports so the 2500K should be good for a couple more years at least. take a look at steams gaming/hardware stats http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey basically gaming designers look towards stats like this when making games. why would a game designer build a game that's so far out of reach for 70% of the gamers
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If BF3 is starving for CPU power that much to use HT then its maybe time to get 6 core CPUs.
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Even with two GTX 580s, my 2500k (4.7ghz) doesn't bottleneck BF3. It usually goes between 70% and 80% usage, and that's with a good many background programs running. Even in games that use all threads possible, a 2500k overclocked is still by far, the best value for the money for gaming hands down.
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