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Originally Posted by RagingAzn628 View Post

Guys calm down i bought my 2600k for $160
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If it is not MC deal, think you can point me where?
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To those that have HT, including OP, kindly provide us with a few screenshots 'proving' your argument. Disregarding price and the performance boost, those that don't have HT can come up with there own conclusion, better yet provide your screenshots too. Unfortunately I don't have a 2600k at this minute, but if you require a certain benchmark, I could certainly provide that with my 2500k and SLI setup. Heaven benchmark 2.1 / 2.5, metro2033 benchamrk, lost planet benchmark etc.

Best to wait for 2600/2700 owners to post their results with HT-on/off, since that eliminates every other variable except HT.
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post #153 of 238
Honestly even my i3 isn't a bottleneck for my 570 sli. My cards max before my CPU does. There's no way a 2600k is needed for gaming.
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For overall multi-tasking and gaming together my system runs smoother with it on.
Almost like an SSD which moves/calculates so much data so fast you don't notice little background executions, HT being designed for Windows7 is quite similar.
It's more of a 'feel' difference, not so much a black and white thing.

Skyrim and a few others are examples of newer games that take advantage of multiple threads however they can get them.
A 2500K is a damn awesome chip but 4 cores 4 threads isn't what it used to be.

Look how the i7-3960X or i7-990X steamroll games and have a 20% advantage sometimes over a 2600K/950.
In the end, you get what you pay for.
Edited by amstech - 2/5/12 at 9:20am
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post #155 of 238
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Originally Posted by amstech View Post

Almost like an SSD which moves/calculates so much data so fast you don't notice little background executions, HT being designed for Windows7 is quite similar.
It's more of a 'feel' difference, not so much a black and white thing.
Skyrim and a few others are examples of newer games that take advantage of multiple threads however they can get them.
A 2500K is a damn awesome chip but 4 cores 4 threads isn't what it used to be.
Look how the i7-3960X or i7-990X steamroll games and have a 20% advantage sometimes over a 2600K/950.
In the end, you get what you pay for.

The performance benefits of a SSD are measurable and well-documented (read/write/seek times; additionally it's completely different from HT). Any gaming benefits from HT-on are also measurable. If you're arguing that it can only be felt, you're arguing a matter of placebo.

Again you've chosen to ignore the vast differences between sockets and platforms. LGA 2011 not only has significantly more memory bandwith than LGA 1155, but the 39X0s (as well as the 980X on 1366) have 2 more physical cores and 12MB of cache.

Also, once again, there's no advantage with HT-on vs. HT-off (ceteris paribus incl. clock speeds, CPU and other hardware) from Skyrim or BF3. There's no evidence to support the claim.

I'll echo the directive comments of munaim1 and suggest that the proof to back up these claims be demonstrated and that feelings and anecdote be personally reserved. If you have an i7 and a few hours of free time and you genuinely stand by your allegations, you should furnish the appropriate benchmarks (i.e. HT-on, HT-off ceteris paribus) to confirm them.

Unless of course you can't prove your argument because all of the measurements might support the converse.
Edited by friend'scatdied - 2/5/12 at 9:51am
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post #156 of 238
All yours guys math need work, such CPU might be something like 30-40% more, but then you talk about improvement of the overall system performance? A system that costs about $800-$1200+ dollars, that is like sneaky Taiwanese marketing tactics. So if you want to be fair compare the extra $60-80 of the CPU compared to the 2500K to the 800-1200 of the overall systems.
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Skyrim and a few others are examples of newer games that take advantage of multiple threads however they can get them.

Why do you all keep saying about Skyrim???
Skyrim only uses two threads! And when I play, I get bottlenecked at 25% CPU thinking.gif

So much for the 2600K being the super chip biggrin.gif
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no one cares dude lol

Actually I do to.I hate when someone tries to tell me what to do.Then I find you base this on a Afterburner screenshot of crossfire 7970's with immature drivers? I find the thread title VERY misleading,and then you disrespect the guy that provided the info.
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WOW This sure stired the pot up. I don't have an I 5 so I really cant say much about one . But it seems to me that if an I 5 plays what you want when you want and how you want. Then " resistance is futile" lachen.gif Being rude is so immature to get your point accross. rolleyes.gif I think a point is made to the I 5 and the I 7 capabilities. Its a matter of price. And bragging rights really. The difference is an unoticeable margain in what you actually play for 99% of folks here. I turned my HT off to OC doing fine from my view. And I bet all out there with the 2500ks are cooking as good as me. wink.gif

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The small increase in performance does not justify $100 difference /thread
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