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Originally Posted by amstech View Post

AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE
Its not 2009 anymore.
I've noticed smoother gaming and overall snappier/smoother system performance with HT on and I ran my i7 with HT off for several months.
You get what you pay for.
Intel prices 2500k's right where they need to be.

Pretty sure you're just trolling now since it's been well over 48 hours for you (or anyone) to grace us with some proof of the underlined and yet no one has any. It's somewhat bemusing to see you ignore all of the defects people have pointed out in your allegations.

The only truth is that we have no apples-to-apples, ceteris paribus HT-on/HT-off benchmarks.

If it's so blatantly true it shouldn't be so hard to prove, should it?
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I've noticed from a lot of threads lately that no one can try to help on this site it seems. When someone makes a good observation and tries to show that, it just gets ridiculed because it wasn't done by Hard forums or Aandtech or you get my drift. I don't get it hmmsmiley02.gif
From the pics in his original post it CLEARLY shows the gpu usage drops when HT is off... THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE GAME PEOPLE! Fps can drop significantly and/or stutter! When you're gpu's are maxed out all the time the game will obviously run better! What is so god damn hard to understand about that? thumb.gif


i wouldn't say it is being ridiculed cause its roasting the sacred cow (showing evidence against a long standing belief). I think most are finding it hard to believe, cause there is so little actual evidence presented here, and its only of 1 game. So to me, that is the reason why people aren't agreeing with it, cause anandtech and other tech/benchmarking sites would've had a very comprehensive list of games, to show if it has benefits to run HT on or off.

 

Its also the "claim" of the OP that is incorrect, yes it might show improvement in battlefield 3, he's claiming with that evidence alone, that no one should be buying 2500k at all, cause by 1 screenshot by 1 person on 1 game, has shown its a bit more consistent to have HT.

 

I would say this subject would need more "research" done into it, to actual carry real weight behind it. I also did not read all the pages to this forum, read the first 3 pages, and this last page, So if something else or more proof of it being true for more games than 1, then I apologize for my laziness. 

 

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Here is a benchmark. The 2600k is a waste for gaming. Hyperthreading does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when using a 2600k for gaming.

http://www.benchzone.com/page.php?al=gaming_performance_part1&pg=14

I would definitely recommend a 2500k over a 2600k any day for gaming.
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OP(trollinator) hasn't posted here in days :lachen.gif::
a)he had no credible evidence
b)he was trolling
c)i posted about what he was doing earlier in this thread
 
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Originally Posted by MrWhiteRX7 View Post

I've noticed from a lot of threads lately that no one can try to help on this site it seems. When someone makes a good observation and tries to show that, it just gets ridiculed because it wasn't done by Hard forums or Aandtech or you get my drift. I don't get it hmmsmiley02.gifhmmsmiley02.gif

From the pics in his original post it CLEARLY shows the gpu usage drops when HT is off... THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE GAME PEOPLE! Fps can drop significantly and/or stutter! When you're gpu's are maxed out all the time the game will obviously run better! What is so god damn hard to understand about that? thumb.gifthumb.gif


i wouldn't say it is being ridiculed cause its roasting the sacred cow (showing evidence against a long standing belief). I think most are finding it hard to believe, cause there is so little actual evidence presented here, and its only of 1 game. So to me, that is the reason why people aren't agreeing with it, cause anandtech and other tech/benchmarking sites would've had a very comprehensive list of games, to show if it has benefits to run HT on or off.

 

Its also the "claim" of the OP that is incorrect, yes it might show improvement in battlefield 3, he's claiming with that evidence alone, that no one should be buying 2500k at all, cause by 1 screenshot by 1 person on 1 game, has shown its a bit more consistent to have HT.

 

I would say this subject would need more "research" done into it, to actual carry real weight behind it. I also did not read all the pages to this forum, read the first 3 pages, and this last page, So if something else or more proof of it being true for more games than 1, then I apologize for my laziness. 

 


No offense to anyone.

 

Does that mean "Here, we don't have the resources to do reviews for our readers as HardOCP and Anandtech and it's entirely user's responsibility to present facts as we see fit"?

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Even if hyper-threading is utilized now, would it even be a significant upgrade from a 2500k since the price difference is a fair amount?
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No offense to anyone.

Does that mean "Here, we don't have the resources to do reviews for our readers as HardOCP and Anandtech and it's entirely user's responsibility to present facts as we see fit"?

Anyone with an i7 can run a couple of benches with HT-on/HT-off with everything else held constant. It would be that simple to prove/disprove the claim.

To be fair, the burden of proof is on them.
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Even if hyper-threading is utilized now, would it even be a significant upgrade from a 2500k since the price difference is a fair amount?

just for gaming right now, probably not but if you do other stuff and have the extra $$ HT seems like a nice option to have
 
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Wow seriously...... Why is it so hard to accept?
Look at the graph in the OP.....
Proof? Goto the 7900 series thread and see the members that sold their 2500k's for 26/2700k's.
One member got an extra 20FPS average from buying & upgrading from the 2500k to it's HT big brother

I did some tests myself.... and the only games that benefited from HT were BF3 and Metro2033
Crysis 2, MW3, Far Cry 2 and Source games yielded no difference.

I got an infraction from a mod on this thread because apparently i was trolling...... but really it was because i was giving it to the butthurt 2500k owners for being in denial and not appreciating RAW information.
If your emotionally affected by this information then i suggest you pursue to discover a new meaning to life thumb.gif

Bottom line, the tests i performed and those in the OP are both with multi gpu setups. Keep that in mind.
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What he's really trying to do..Is justify to himself that he made the right decision in getting not only the 4-core/hyper-threaded model..but the pointlessly more expensive 4-core hyper-threaded model :lachen.gif:
aw...no 3930K? or 3960X?
^That would yield better performance..Since you're into paying so much for cpus
PS... I bet your 2700K doesn't clock as high as my 2500K tongue.gif
and no..i'm not emotionally attached to it..probably will sell it on here..to build some kinda funky OCing platform :lachen.gif:

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