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post #1261 of 2062
Virtually all DDR3 is speced to take up to 1.575v continually, regardless of it's nominal rating. This generally applies even to DDR3L (1.35v) and DDR3U (1.25v) parts.

I've accumulated quite a number of these (I have fourteen sticks, so far) and have begun to notice a fair degree of variability from DIMM to DIMM. For example, on my current board, with it's immature BIOS, I do not have control over tRC. At tight tRCs, some of my sticks need as much as 1.525v to be stable, while others, at the exact same speed and timings, are stable at sub 1.35v. Max stable OC between my best and worst DIMMs differs by over 300MT/s.
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post #1262 of 2062
I was looking for them in Holland and they're 67 euros for one set. pfff that is more than a set of Patriot Viper 3 2133 2*4GB. It's just the timing that would be more epic with these. But I hoped they would be cheaper frown.gif
 
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So it's not a matter of temperature to go over 1.575V for a long time without heat spreaders for these and remain in a safe zone?
   
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post #1264 of 2062
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So it's not a matter of temperature to go over 1.575V for a long time without heat spreaders for these and remain in a safe zone?

Nope. Heat spreaders have no impact on how much voltage a dimm can handle.

I find Heat spreaders to be useless on DDR3, on my g.skill DDR3, I ripped the heat spreaders off, because they were terribly gaudy (Ripjaws X). I still have that kit OC'd, and running @ 1.65v since April of this year, folding 24/7 for the most part, with no issues.
post #1265 of 2062
Im running 2200 Mhz CL10 @ 1.5v but need to test some more (Lower voltage) - Think that 2200 Mhz at max 1.5v would be a nice 24/7 setting.
post #1266 of 2062
I just know that with a better heatsink that the GDDR3 on my GTX280 clocked better. How much exactly that translates over to 30nm ddr3 I have no clue but I find it hard to believe that better cooling would have no effect.
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post #1267 of 2062
The Samsung ICs can take the volts easily - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4bq0navzo - the very same kit is running at 2.0V in my mother's computer 24/7 since August and I haven't heard her report any single problem.
Same goes for PSC, Elpida BBSE and Hypers - all of those ICs can perfectly take 1.9-2.1V, even on air.

What makes the memory "die", I believe, is the PCB design.
Although I have never killed a single memory stick with voltage (out of thousands I had), I have seen numerious examples (mostly OEM and low-profile memory) when "good" ICs would just stop scaling past certain voltage for no apparent reason.
post #1268 of 2062
dang. might have to get me a set of these as well smile.gif
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The Samsung ICs can take the volts easily - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4bq0navzo - the very same kit is running at 2.0V in my mother's computer 24/7 since August and I haven't heard her report any single problem.
Your mother has some extreme computer smile.gif Mine is happy with an i3 and 4GB of DDR 1333 RAM...
   
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The Samsung ICs can take the volts easily - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4bq0navzo - the very same kit is running at 2.0V in my mother's computer 24/7 since August and I haven't heard her report any single problem.
Same goes for PSC, Elpida BBSE and Hypers - all of those ICs can perfectly take 1.9-2.1V, even on air.
What makes the memory "die", I believe, is the PCB design.
Although I have never killed a single memory stick with voltage (out of thousands I had), I have seen numerious examples (mostly OEM and low-profile memory) when "good" ICs would just stop scaling past certain voltage for no apparent reason.

WHY??
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