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[Wired] AMD Eyes ARM Alliance in War on Intel

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Could the low-power chip design that’s used in your iPhone someday show up inside the chips built by Intel rival Advanced Micro Devices?

Definitely maybe. Or as AMD’s brand new Chief Technology Officer Mark Papermaster put it to us: “The answer is not no.”

Of course, the answer is not yes either. That would be Papermaster showing his hand before he’s ready, something that new CTOs are not supposed to do.

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For obvious reasons Intel would be too stubborn to move from x86 to something they didn't invent.
I still question whether ARM can take on Intel and even AMD in the desktop market.
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Problem is....x86 works so DARN well on a desktop/laptop environment. Only in phones and tablets will ARM ever be fully relevant.

Which really puts the squeeze on AMD. With Intel running the table in desktops and most laptop CPU's, ARM owning tablets and smartphones....what can AMD specialize in? Other than maybe make some headway into laptop APU's....
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Problem is....x86 works so DARN well on a desktop/laptop environment. Only in phones and tablets will ARM ever be fully relevant.
Which really puts the squeeze on AMD. With Intel running the table in desktops and most laptop CPU's, ARM owning tablets and smartphones....what can AMD specialize in? Other than maybe make some headway into laptop APU's....

They could smack the crap out of Intel in servers, but there are other players such as IBM that are there as well.
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They are finding it impossible to fight Intel head on @ x86. The only way for them to challenge them is if they change waters. They have to do something different.
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For obvious reasons Intel would be too stubborn to move from x86 to something they didn't invent.
I still question whether ARM can take on Intel and even AMD in the desktop market.

It's a cat and mouse game, intel has always been half a step behind. Their smart though and rich enough, while their competitors pour everything they have at a product, intel just watches quietly and within 1-2 years it has a killer product out and ready to pounce.

Remember the days of good old socket 939 for AMD? Intel wasn't even a thought those days, when everyone had X2 4400+, x2 4600+ etc. Intel bounced back and look, AMD has made nothing that can touch Intels offerings.

Same thing will happen to the mobile market. In a year or two the most powerful smartphones will be powered by Intel.


AMD just can not compete with Intel anymore, looking for a way out while staying afloat.
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They could smack the crap out of Intel in servers, but there are other players such as IBM that are there as well.

I'd love to see a POWER based chip from AMD. IBM and AMD have worked together on a lot of stuff(fab tech, consoles) so i think POWER is at least likely.
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AMD will eventually have APU's in their server department. I think that Piledriver will be an improvement but we will really be seeing some great things come time for steam roller cores in APU's. I know, just another fanboi saying , "wait until 2013-2014!" This is a new market and AMD has got the jump on others and if they work it out right, they can create their own destiny.
    
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AMD will eventually have APU's in their server department. I think that Piledriver will be an improvement but we will really be seeing some great things come time for steam roller cores in APU's. I know, just another fanboi saying , "wait until 2013-2014!" This is a new market and AMD has got the jump on others and if they work it out right, they can create their own destiny.

Its not a new market at all. Intel has been making "APUs" since it put its HD Graphics on the CPU. AMD just labeled them differently so that the reference to Intel wouldn't be there. And who needs video output on a server? Thats just extra overhead not going towards the workload.
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Well it's definitely smart that AMD is trying to play all sides and hedge their bets. It should be an interesting fight on both the mobile front and the desktop computing space.
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