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It's nice and chilly outside, and since I have 4 cpus and a GPU folding away, so its nice and toasty in my room... so I used some ingenuity and figured out a solution....


The main setup: ( sigrig behind that fan )

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View from the top of sigrig:

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Remove the blankets...

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Intake of the sigrig...

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The intake fan sucking cool air in from outside into the tubing...

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The other side of my room, where the rest of the hardware is:

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The folding mess:

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Phenom II X4 830 & i3 530 on the desk

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So basically; the dryer tubing and fan pulls in the cold air, which goes straight to my sig rig since that gets the hottest, the white box fan pulls extra cold air from near the window towards the other side of the room, guided by the cardboard and other stuff I had lying around, into my 2500K rig, and into the general area of the other two rigs.

The problem was that one side of the room was freezing if i just had the window open, and the other side of the room was hot, so the tubing is covered by blankets to keep the cold insulated inside the tubing (works surprisingly well actually.) so all the cold air is kept where it needs to be, and I can still sleep in my room without freezing.

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Edited by Fooxz - 2/5/12 at 12:23am
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dude, no, you're gonna get condensation.
shut off your rig. leave it off.
let it warm up and then dry for a long time

you shouldve done the exhaust outside, and let the window transfer cold air in.
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dude, no, you're gonna get condensation.
shut off your rig. leave it off.
let it warm up and then dry for a long time
you shouldve done the exhaust outside, and let the window transfer cold air in.

you clearly have no idea how condensation forms.
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dude, no, you're gonna get condensation.
shut off your rig. leave it off.
let it warm up and then dry for a long time
you shouldve done the exhaust outside, and let the window transfer cold air in.

uh... the fan is VERY slow, and ive been doing this for over a week, and I have been checking the computer, and no signs of ANY condensation anywhere. The temp outside is above freezing (~40F) the system is basically just barely chilling the air. With this, the temps of my CPU and GPU only drop by around 10C, the HDDs which get the brunt of the chill are sitting around 18C. There is also towels in the tubing to catch any actual water that might come in as well.
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you clearly have no idea how condensation forms.

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dude, no, you're gonna get condensation.
shut off your rig. leave it off.
let it warm up and then dry for a long time
you shouldve done the exhaust outside, and let the window transfer cold air in.

you clearly have no idea how condensation forms.

teach me then dude.

and if air particles can get through, then so can water particles.
being above freezing wouldnt make a difference, as water can condensate on objects above freezing.
has your drink dripping with condensation ever been a block of ice?
didnt think so...
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teach me then dude.
and if air particles can get through, then so can water particles.
being above freezing wouldnt make a difference, as water can condensate on objects above freezing.
has your drink dripping with condensation ever been a block of ice?
didnt think so...

Generally that happens with a drink that has ICE in it, when it is surrounded by air warmer than itself.

This is something HOT, getting air that is COLDER than itself pushed around it.

I dont claim to know what difference that makes, but trust me, i HAVE been checking the inside of my rig religiously, and it is quite dry inside and out. There is no condensation. Plus its really dry around here since its winter so that helps. I wouldn't do this with a window AC since that does have potential to create some condensation.

Also: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensation
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teach me then dude.
and if air particles can get through, then so can water particles.
being above freezing wouldnt make a difference, as water can condensate on objects above freezing.
has your drink dripping with condensation ever been a block of ice?
didnt think so...

Generally that happens with a drink that has ICE in it, when it is surrounded by air warmer than itself.

This is something HOT, getting air that is COLDER than itself pushed around it.

I dont claim to know what difference that makes, but trust me, i HAVE been checking the inside of my rig religiously, and it is quite dry inside and out. There is no condensation. Plus its really dry around here since its winter so that helps. I wouldn't do this with a window AC since that does have potential to create some condensation.

Also: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensation

typically, large a/c units will remove more of the moisture than the outside air has,
but good for you on checking
i wouldnt risk it tho

and the ice just makes the drink closer to freezing, if it was at freezing, it would be frozen.

so if one part of your case gets to 45F, then air in your room (>75 i suppose?) could definitely form condensation

the teach me comment was sarcasm, as he clearly didnt know how condensation works.
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typically, large a/c units will remove more of the moisture than the outside air has,
but good for you on checking
i wouldnt risk it tho
and the ice just makes the drink closer to freezing, if it was at freezing, it would be frozen.
so if one part of your case gets to 45F, then air in your room (>75 i suppose?) could definitely form condensation
the teach me comment was sarcasm, as he clearly didnt know how condensation works.

well I can tell you for certain even the outside of the front part of my case is pretty cold, at least 50F, most likely cooler, and my room is definitely as warm as 70F, and there is no condensation.

The ice in the drink is frozen, while the liquid around it is near freezing. the air is warming the drink which is warming the ice, the drink overall is cold, which the air around on turns into a vapor/liquid since the temp difference is extreme, but in this case the air and computer hardware does not have enough water in it to create the condensation. Technically the computer is warming the cool air, instead of the cool drink cooling the air. condensation is a gas turning into a liquid, so if the air being a gas is being warmed up, its not getting closer to becoming a liquid. No condensation.

I was hesitant at first too, and while trying to figure out what to do, I wanted to find a ton of silica packets and make a "dry filter" of sorts to the tubing, so all the air could pass though the silica which would suck out any moisture. But instead I was very careful, started out with the tubing further away from the computer, then realized that there wouldn't be any dangerous amount of condensation, and have had it like this for at least a week straight, no problems.
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You won't get any condensation, don't worry about that at all.
I would not say you have a folding problem at all, it's just an addiction with positive results. Now how many times can you say that one and have it be true!!! biggrin.gif

Keep up the good work man!!
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