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I see a lot of people just increasing the multiplier and not the FSB. You get much more performance if you increase the FSB as much as possible and then up the multiplier. Increasing the FSB also increases you memory speed. I increased my FSB from 200 to 240, which increased my memory from 1333MHz to 1600MHz (also my memory timings are much less than standard 1600 MHz memory). That brought my CPU MHz to 3840, then I increased my multiplier from 16 to 17 which took it to 4080 MHz. A comp at 240x17 (4080MHz) will be faster than one at 200 x 20.5 (4100MHz). Your memory may not be able to handle that much OC but you should definitely be able to get your FSB to somewhere between 210-230 MHz. I had to raise the voltage to 1.45 to get to the 4.1 GHz range. I can run it at 3960 MHz (18x220) with standard voltage (1.4)

I have a very inexpensive and OC unfriendly Motherboard (according to reviews I see about it). But I managed some quite good OCing (IMHO). I can run it at 230x18 (4140 MHz) but I think 17x240 is a better balance and it is working great.

Just my 2c
changing fsb changes:
CPU speed
NB speed
memory speed
HTlink

HT Link should stay at 2000 with these chips
NB Speed should stay 2200-2600
Memory is tricky, and some DIMMs cannot OC

I would recommend multi OCing if you can, because it isolates your changes. having 200 fsb x20 is gonna perform the same the same as 250x16 if you adjust the rest of your settings to keep them the same. You can overclock with multipliers anything you can OC with FSB
 
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changing fsb changes:
CPU speed
NB speed
memory speed
HTlink
HT Link should stay at 2000 with these chips
NB Speed should stay 2200-2600
Memory is tricky, and some DIMMs cannot OC
I would recommend multi OCing if you can, because it isolates your changes. having 200 fsb x20 is gonna perform the same the same as 250x16 if you adjust the rest of your settings to keep them the same. You can overclock with multipliers anything you can OC with FSB

Agreed, I like using the FSB because it raises everything together, also with my Motherboard, I get better performance from my memory than when using just the multiplier (or ratio) to bring it to 1600 MHz. I think it is a timing thing, but anyway, it worked best for me that way.

The HT Link freq, after Googling that for a while, seems to be of very little consequence. Some say it is recommended to keep it around 1900-2100, others say there is no measurable difference anywhere between 1000 and 3000. But thank you for the note on that, I did reduce mine from x10 to x8 bringing it down to 1920. A few tests show no performance difference and it can't hurt.
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Agreed, I like using the FSB because it raises everything together, also with my Motherboard, I get better performance from my memory than when using just the multiplier (or ratio) to bring it to 1600 MHz. I think it is a timing thing, but anyway, it worked best for me that way.

The HT Link freq, after Googling that for a while, seems to be of very little consequence. Some say it is recommended to keep it around 1900-2100, others say there is no measurable difference anywhere between 1000 and 3000. But thank you for the note on that, I did reduce mine from x10 to x8 bringing it down to 1920. A few tests show no performance difference and it can't hurt.
usually HTlink causes stability issues.
 
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And HTLink needs to be equal or less than NB freq
 
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I think CPU-Z is hating me again... Damn..

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I think CPU-Z is hating me again... Damn..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2443490

 

1.60 and 1.61 have been a mess for AMD lately.  They're currently trying to fix the bugs and release a 1.62.

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Here is my latest cpu-z, recently got a foxconn destroyer from a guy here on the forums, only because my ASUS m3n-ht died by my hands.

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I think I may need a better power supply, i can get to 3.7ghz stable in prime95 and occt, and superpi32m, but when I try to play games it downclocks my video card. My power supply is rated only 20a on 12v rails. If i use the above clock I can game for hours.
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cpuz has also been playing silly buggers and reporting incorrect fsb with mine too...just trying 1.61.2 and I have a bus speed of 19mhz....
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[Intel] i7 3770k @4.6GHz [Gigabyte] G1.Sniper 3 z77 EATX [MSI] 7950 Twin Frozr III @1300/1700 [PNY] 2x4GB @1600MHz 
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[Crucial] M4 256GB [Western Digitial] Caviar Blue 1TB [MSI] External DVD burner Danger Den M6 Nickel block 
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Monsoon Compressions, LED angled rotaries HWLabs Black Ice GTS360 push/pull w/Corsair SP120 FrozenQ Liquid Fusion V w/black helix Swiftech MCP655 SE 
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[Corsair] Air Series AF 140mm fans (x3) [Reveen] Six Eyes RFC-01 fan controller [Windows] 8 Pro x64 [HP] 2311x 23" 1080p 5ms 
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[KBtalking] Pro Bluetooth KB w/MX Reds [Cooler Master] Silent Pro 1050W [NZXT] Switch 810 Matte Black [Mionix] Naos 3200 
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[Razer] Goliathus Extended Speed Edition [Asus] ThunderFX External DAC [Klipsch] Promedia 2.1 Speakers [Klipsch] Promedia IEM 
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[Klipsch] Image One Headphones [NZXT] HUEHUEHUE 
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[AMD] A10 5800K APU @4.8GHz [ASRock] FM2A85X-ITX [Asus] DC2 7950 3GB [Corsair] Dominator GT 2x4GB 2133MHz 
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[Crucial] M4 128GB SSD [Western Digital] Caviar Blue 1TB [Unknown] Slimline Blu Ray Drive [Corsair] H90 push/pull w/Bitfenix Spectre Pro 
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[Bitfenix] Spectre Pro 200mm, 140mm & 120mm red... [Windows] 8 Pro x64 [Sceptre] 40" 1080P 8ms LCD TV [Razer] BlackWidow Tournament w/MX Cherry Blues 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
[Rosewill] Hive 650W Modular PSU [Bitfenix] Prodigy Performance-PC's High Airflo... [Mionix] Naos 3200 [Razer] Vespula 
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