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Well, after days of tests, changes, and parameter adjustments, I'm learning that Deneb is much easier and stable when overclocking than thuban 1100t. I rarely get blue screens with 965 Deneb, and thuban blued on a miniscule 4.1ghz oc. I guess that I'll leave Deneb in the fatality scorpious to replace 8120 fx and put thuban in blue/black to p[lay around until get volts and nb/ht settings correct. I don't see how some of these guys get 5ghz with thuban.... Deneb is so much more stable.
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4.1ghz isn't miniscule for thuban blinksmiley.gif .
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Originally Posted by M3TAl View Post

4.1ghz isn't miniscule for thuban blinksmiley.gif .

^this and i've never seen a thuban do 5GHz except with extreme cooling or leaving just a core to oc.
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Some thubans can't even get to 4ghz. And same goes for Denebs. 4ghz is not guaranteed. thinking.gif
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Well, that's exactly why I consider myself an overclocking apprentice as I surely would've assumed that the cpu specs and abilities would be constant and predictable. I surely wouldn't think that there would be so much variance per chip. Which do you prefer when it comes to overclocking ability and general overall performance? Thuban1100t's or 965 to 980 Deneb's? Or actually thubans or deneb's in general... Personally my 965 deneb has been bulletproof and dependable but the thuban I'm still learning. Thanks!
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post #466 of 1264
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post


^this and i've never seen a thuban do 5GHz except with extreme cooling or leaving just a core to oc.

 

I do a lot of extreme cooling, and I don't think I've ever seen 5GHz on anything warmer than a slush bucket setup.  The highest I've seen on air or regular water is ~4.7GHz.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3TAl View Post

Some thubans can't even get to 4ghz. And same goes for Denebs. 4ghz is not guaranteed. thinking.gif

 

Must C3 denebs will reach ~4.0ghz on air/water with enough tweaking and the right motherboard, but like you said, it's not a guarantee.

 

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Well, that's exactly why I consider myself an overclocking apprentice as I surely would've assumed that the cpu specs and abilities would be constant and predictable. I surely wouldn't think that there would be so much variance per chip. Which do you prefer when it comes to overclocking ability and general overall performance? Thuban1100t's or 965 to 980 Deneb's? Or actually thubans or deneb's in general... Personally my 965 deneb has been bulletproof and dependable but the thuban I'm still learning. Thanks!

 

I can't really speak from an air/water cooling perspective, but from an extreme cooling perspective the Denebs almost always beat the Thubans in everything (except memory overclocking).  And out of the denebs, the 955 BE C3 revisions are generally the best, in particular the ones that came out at the release date, and the most recent batch as well.

 

On LN2 the Thubans usually top out at around 6.5ghz, while the 955 can go to ~6.7ghz and the ones I mentioned (early release and recent release) can go to 6.9+ ghz.

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So don't more "leaky" chips oc better on extreme cooling? And the opposite is true with air/water? So on air/water a thuban should oc better than deneb.
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I'm a OC newb and I easily attained 4ghz lol,then again buying BE processors with the unlocked multiplier is where it became so easy. I just recently bumped my NB from 2000mhz to 2200mhz and havent noticed a significant benefit yet over my straight Multi OC (20x200).

I also tried "locking my CPU voltage to 1.5v" and the end result of trying a straight multi OC for 4ghz = fail,everytime.
However while gaming and preforming BOINC! projects I rarely see my cpu voltage usage above 1.5,extremely rare. Usually around 1.472 during intensive tasks, 1.12 or LOWER during just video playback.
I think the features built into most motherboards will be doing a better job of determining whats needed to make an OC stable for the casual overclocker to see success.

ACC off breaks my stability
CnQ off just seems like abuse on my CPU.
Unleashing Mode on,even though I don't unlock cores with it I've heard it can increase stability.
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I'm doing 4ghz (20x200 1.456v idle 1.488v P95 load 1.472v semi-load) and 2.6ghz cpu-nb 1.3v. CnQ is on and C1e on auto (not sure if that means on or off).
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I'm doing 4ghz (20x200 1.456v idle 1.488v P95 load 1.472v semi-load) and 2.6ghz cpu-nb 1.3v. CnQ is on and C1e on auto (not sure if that means on or off).

I'm weiry about overclocking my NB to 2400 let alone 2600, as I really don't wanna replace a motherboard due to catastrophic failure. Is operating the NB past 2000mhz risky buisness? Maybe some people here can convince me that the performance gains are really that good. Im using 2200mhz right now....
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