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can i come play too?

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1835487

still got that kicking about somewhere smile.gif
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Is that stable at 4.7??
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I wish I could get a single stage cooler rolleyes.gif . My chip was able to pass 1024m at 4.75ghz with 1.64V devil.gif with 3ghz nb all that on custom ice water. I just forgot to make a valid doh.gif (probaly I could get 5ghz valid). But I still have my MTM II (4th place in AMD 4 thread class) screenshot with 4.65ghz passing 1024m .






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LOL Wow... Nice custom setup.

Edit: So where i'm at now stable is the cpu at 4410 MHZ. This ASRock board is great with the exception of the temperatures and voltages are all over the place (nothing high, just differences in readings between programs and bios). Right now at stable the CPU voltage shows "Vcore voltage of 1.608V" in the ASRock utility. In CPU-Z the vcore also shows 1.608 but core temp shows "VID: 1.5375". I assume 1.608 is the correct reading? What is the difference in VID? Perhaps I should ask in the motherboard thread.

As for temps, the CPU temp shows 42C at idle in the ASRock utility. In Core temp it shows 38, and in corsair monitor it also shows 38. Not sure which is correct. I have seen the temp show close to 60 in the ASRock utility which I know is too high but it seemed fine (voltage was higher). That makes me think the ASRock may be reading higher anyway but just not sure yet. Haven't had this running and tweaking but for about 15 hours now. Also in the BIOS and utility it always shows the motherboard temp around 35-40C which is possible considering there are 3x 230mm fans in my case but with these voltages 35-40C still seems lower than I thought it would be. Maybe that cheap heatsink does better than I thought??

My goal is to get 4500MHz stable. With my current setup what do you guys think? Is it possible?

In an unrelated note im still working on my graphics card which is proving to be a headache. ASUS 7850... Heres a screen shot of my current stable setup with the card for no reason:

Edited by bond32 - 4/4/13 at 9:34am
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This setup was for benching only. ~45°C with 100% load at 1.64V Vcore and 1.4V Cpu/NB.
For reading temps use AMD Overdrive wchich semms to be the most reliable on Phenom II Cpu's. Also Hwmonitor shows the same temps as overdrive so use it.
I really don't recommend using overdrive for overclocking (there are some problem with voltages). The best overclocking program is K10Stat for multiplier(also you can play with voltages using it,It allows custom multipliers like 10.25 or 10.75) + your dedicated MB OC program for voltages and HTT.
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Nice. I see were assembling a group of people who are deep into the 4Ghz range. Sure is interesting to see how far the Stars architecture improved over time all the way back from 940 BE C2. We've experienced almost a 1Ghz increase in overclockablility on mostly normal setups.

I've been tempted to spring for the H100i in hopes of achieving a higher 24/7 overclock, but for now I'm still on the Mugen 2.
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Nice. I see were assembling a group of people who are deep into the 4Ghz range. Sure is interesting to see how far the Stars architecture improved over time all the way back from 940 BE C2. We've experienced almost a 1Ghz increase in overclockablility on mostly normal setups.

I've been tempted to spring for the H100i in hopes of achieving a higher 24/7 overclock, but for now I'm still on the Mugen 2.

 

The H100 will definitely be better than the Mugen 2, but I'm not sure how much better of an overclock you'll be able to achieve with it (if any).

 

Your sig says that your chip is already at 4.4ghz on air, so I really doubt that it will go much further for a 24/7 clock.  More so than anything these chips scale with cold, and I dont meant the 5C difference you'll see from the H100...I mean going sub zero.  You're not going to be able to go much further than you 4.4ghz OC for any length of time unless you start dropping temps drastically.

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Well, got my hands on a decent cooler (Xigmatek Gaia; got it as a freebie) over the stock piece of crap i was using at first, and my deneb is nice and happy now. Much quieter too. The stock cooler even modded with a 92mm PWM fan still ran hot and loud once i kicked it up manually to keep up with the temps, and even then it often reached/passed the 62C mark.

Now running on the Gaia and even with the CPU fan sitting at 900 RPM the CPU at stock floats at a much cooler 53C and the CPU cooler is inaudible even just 2 feet away. Full speed on the fan cuts the temps to 49C, and even then the fan, while audible is still much much quieter vs the 3500 RPM 92mm fan on the stock cooler i had in there before. If severe vdroop wasnt such an issue (and i had a proper heatsink on the 'fets), id see how much further i could push this chip, as the vdroop (i set for 1.5v i get as low as 1.44)) is nasty and 2 of the power mosfets as well as the entire bank of driver 'fets are un-sinked, making pushing the setup any harder futile as the protection starts kicking in. I top out at 3.6ghz, and even here under extreme FPU load the CPU is throttling to keep the mosfets from exploding.

Meh, crap board is crap, cant really find or afford a better AM2+ compatible matx board. Some suggestions would be nice though.
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I can't seem to stabilize it for anything over 4.4. What is the difference between "CPU NB voltage" and "NB voltage"?

Most of the overclocking guides for the phenom 2 are before the 990 chipset so I think things are different. I am putting 1.64 volts to the cpu right now and it still restarts in almost the exact same spot every time during benchmarks which makes me think I am missing something or the NB isn't what it should be. My temps never get above 54 C at full load. Board temps are always under 38 C too so no issue there.

http://valid.canardpc.com/2758502

Messing with the HT link speed and voltage seems to have no effect on stability. Right now I upped the "NB Voltage" rather than "CPU-NB voltage" and im going to try to run some benchmarks after class.

Also I disabled LLC as it was causing issues. I know for other cpus this is needed but seems for my setup it was causing problems.
Edited by bond32 - 4/5/13 at 6:27am
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Crucial Ballistix 2400mhz 4GB 1.3V Crucial 2133@2400mhz 4GB 1.3V Crucial 2133@2400mhz 4GB 1.3V Seagate 4TB 
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Samsung 840 EVO 120GB[OS] WD Red 1TB Samsung 840EVO 120GB[Arma 3] Koolance 380A [modded for LGA2011v3] 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Black Water Ultimate 123 [3x Corsair AF120 Perf... MCP655 with Alphacool HF acetal top [5th gear] Feser 10/13 UV Tubing Alphacool CKC clear 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Cooltek 120mm rad [antec tri-speed] Cooltek 120mm Rad [Corsair SP120 High Performan... Alphacool GPX-A 290 [290X waterblock] Windows 7 Ulitimate 64 bit  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
LG 29EA93 [2560x1080] LG L1715S [1280x1024] Samsung SMB2030N [1600x900] DIY display on V59 controller[1366x768@1440x900] 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
4Tech X7 G800 Cooler Master Real Power 850w Cooler Master Haf 932 Amd Edition Microsoft Mobile Mouse 4000 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Superlux hd681 FiiO E07K SoundMax Superbeam [bundled with P5B DLX] Scythe Kaze Master Pro 6 chanell 
OtherOther
2x Sharkoon 30cm red cold cathodes 2x Revoltec 10cm UV cold cathodes 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 250 @2GHZ @1core Gigabyte 870A-USB3 Ati X600 128MB GoodRam 4gb 1333mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB Samsung 40gb[OS] 6x Hitachi 2TB (RAID 6) 2x160GB RAID 1 
OSPowerOtherOther
Debian 8.2.0 x64 Pentagram Silent Force 460W Ever Eco Pro 700 CDS [UPS] Edimax EW-7318USg [Access Point] 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
Xeon E5420 Xeon E5420 HP ML350 G5 motherboard HD5450 with HD5770 cooler on passive [PCIE X4] 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
20GB FB-DIMM@800mhz 2x40GB WD RAID0 Sata [11year old as for 2015] 2x73GB HP 15K RPM RAID0 SAS HP 10K RPM 143GB SAS 
Hard DriveHard DriveMonitorPower
HP 10K RPM 143GB SAS HP 10K RPM 143GB SAS Fujitsu W19-1 [1440x900] Delta DPS 800W 
CaseOtherOtherOther
HP ML350 G5 case Adaptec SATA II RAID 1220SA ADAPTEC SCSI-CARD 29320LP Quantum TC-L32BX LTO 3 [tape drive] 
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