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so much fail

can't we just agree that the possibility of an aids cure is a good thing??
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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post

so much fail
can't we just agree that the possibility of an aids cure is a good thing??

I think the problem is, is why does there need to be a placebo pill? We already know for a fact nothing else discovered so far can remotely count as a vaccine. So why have a group of people who truly believe that they are getting real help when all they are is getting a sugar pill? The thing with HIV is that once it turns into full blown aids they are in trouble. Since HIV and AIDS are two different beasts which one can assume that the Vaccine doesn't help those with full on AIDS.

Yea there is the "glory" of helping to get a cure, but is it really glory when you're the one dying but you honestly believe that you might be better? HIV can turn into AIDS VERY easily in 3 years.
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post #13 of 94
Pharmaceutical companies are banking way too much from antiretroviral medications to be allowing cures for such viruses..... mad.gif
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Many have tried and failed to create a vaccine that could prevent infection with HIV. Now, Canadian researchers say they're working on one that takes a different approach.
Researchers from the University of Western Ontario in London, Ont. say they have developed an HIV vaccine that uses the whole HIV virus, unlike other attempts that have used just certain genes or proteins from the virus.
The virus has been genetically engineered to be "non-pathogenic," meaning it can't actually cause HIV in recipients. The idea is the vaccine would prime the body's T-cells to destroy any cells that might become infected with HIV.
So far, the vaccine has been shown to stimulate a strong immune response in preliminary toxicology tests in lab animals, the university reports. But it will be several years before researchers know whether it's effective in humans.
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The World Health Organization estimates that 34 million people are living with HIV around the world, and that 2.7 million people are newly infected every year.
YAY FOR UNPROTECTED SEX WITH A VASECTOMY! (not really)
In other news, Canada was actually useful for something other than hockey and maple syrup.

Seriously? That was offensive ... What about our bacon?
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post #15 of 94
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Isn't it the other way around? You acquire AIDS which in turn develops HIV?

I was always taught HIV turns into AIDS. Cause HIV is an STD not AIDS.

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HIV cause AIDS according to Wiki
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Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is a lentivirus (a member of the retrovirus family) that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS),[1][2] a condition in humans in which progressive failure of the immune system allows life-threatening opportunistic infections and cancers to thrive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
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yea i was gonna post a derail pic but then i figured it would be too much.

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2.7 million a year. Damn people...

Mostly concentrated in poor rural areas/countries on the globe.
 
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Actually, it's the "placebo" part that is highly disturbing. If everyone got the same vaccine, it would be okay, since that's what they signed up for in the first place. Now - not so much.

Eh, seriously? You think that they won't tell the volunteers that there is the possibility they may end up with a placebo and not the real vaccine but instead tell everyone they are all getting the real deal and if it turns out that they didn't, they just put on their trollface and say "oops forgot to mention it!"?

I don't know what the regulations are in the U.S., but in Canada they pound it into your head in every research methods class that not disclosing the potential risks to participants is not only unethical but also illegal.
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