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At least we're not China.

You're right, we're not China, we're worse than China.

It's just that the masses are too dumb to realize, blame educational budget cuts for that.
 
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I dont see why any form of media should become free after a period of time.
If I spend time and money working to write a book (for example a classic like War & Peace) why should I stop making money from that book in 4 years time?
That income is still relevent to me and allows me to continue working on the book taht Im writing now. If I didnt have that revnue strream then I would need to have a 9-5 job and would not be able to deliver the next classic work thats in my head and conusmers miss out on the pleasure of reading it because people feel that they deserve things for free.
What's your take on patents? It's kind of the same situation there. Pharmaceutical companies, for example, create an amazing drug. But they know that they only have 14 years to recover their expenses and make a profit before any other company can copy their formula and make a corresponding "generic". The reason for this is public benefit - the 14 years allows companies to still generate enough revenues to continue spending billions on research (which is what we want), but the general public eventually gets the medicines available at very low costs in the form of generics.

I'm not sure that the same way of thinking could/should apply to copyright law, since copyrights generally apply to things that don't make near as much money, and are mostly protecting the individual. But, it is an interesting theory to think about. Maybe it should?
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No one is saying their going to enter your house and hack/steal files from your computer. You see with file-sharing (i.e. torrent, warez, newsgroup) the original file is not a stolen file. Do you honestly not understand how this works? People upload THEIR OWN FILES, they don't break into the producers home and steal his copy to upload. Hence it is not stealing, its sharing, and its sharing and not theft that the law defines as illegal in this case.
Your whole point is moot because nothing is stolen at any point in the process. Legally and practically "piracy" is not theft, its file-sharing and copyright infringement.
If your trying to tell me that I don't own the any of the media I buy well then that's an entirely different debate.

 

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After a certain time, companies stop making movies. Which means they stop getting money from those movies. And the only way to find them is old movie bins in stores, used, or pirated ( all 3 options don't help the company out in any way anymore ). What happens when all the stores sell out, and the used ones are gone? Does that movie just cease to exist? If it had moved into the public domain, it would be on the internet and free for all where it would never die.
Hell, I've got EVERY Disney movie on VHS, only a select few have been made into a DVD and even fewer into Blu Ray. And most will never make it to DVD or Blu Ray, because Disney just isn't concerned with it. You can't buy these movies anymore, unless by some miracle you find someone willing to sell second hand. Most will be in collections like mine, and people won't part. When the VHS's degrade, they'll be lost forever(except to Disney of course). Now if the copyrights had ever made it to the public domain, it would be all over the internet, and would never be lost.
Has little to do with people wanting stuff for free. Everything moves into the public domain, that's fact. We're just discussing how long it should realistically take. And Copyrights can always be extended even further.


 

These.

 

post #134 of 143
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If your trying to tell me that I don't own the any of the media I buy well then that's an entirely different debate.


Physically, you do own it. It's in your hands, you can touch it, throw it, break it, do whatever you want to physically (and lawfully). 

 

Technically, you don't. You own a license/contract to listen/watch/play said media. This is most especially the case with most games and digital content. If you fail to abide by the rules of that license/contract then your right to that media can be (although rarely heard of) revoked.

 

 

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You're right, we're not China, we're worse than China.
It's just that the masses are too dumb to realize, blame educational budget cuts for that.

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But yeah.... I never even heard of this site until now. Oh well, not really a sports fan anyway wink.gif
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So clearly the problem is the government, in so much as regulating the works which are protected by copyright without the consent of the copyright holder to engage in legal enforcement of any kind, even as much as it may be supported by those who lobby the government to do so (MPAA/RIAA).

Proof that the copyright holders didn't ask for federal help from the judicial branch?
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This make me laugh.gov shut site site move where gov cant do squat even if their life depended on it.then they scratch their head.would be simpler to limit quality to 240 p
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I dont see why any form of media should become free after a period of time.
If I spend time and money working to write a book (for example a classic like War & Peace) why should I stop making money from that book in 4 years time?
That income is still relevent to me and allows me to continue working on the book taht Im writing now. If I didnt have that revnue strream then I would need to have a 9-5 job and would not be able to deliver the next classic work thats in my head and conusmers miss out on the pleasure of reading it because people feel that they deserve things for free.

Like Shark said every thing moves to public domain eventually. But books unlike other media is allowed to be loaned out to the public from libraries even before the copyright expires. I would like the same to hold true for movies and games to. And like earlier discussed the copyright protection time should be shortened to some thing more reasonable.
    
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for the ones argueing about movies.

movies make the least amount of money from DVD copies in reality.

the first 2 weeks or so of release, the theatres rake in the revenue that usually triples the movie's budget if not more, and about 90% of it is profit for paramount pictures (or whoever produced the film, paramount is an example).

there really should be no such thing as pay per view, it is obsurd, i watch my father, who is retired at 67 years of age, pay to watch old movies on his tv, because he cant walk out and buy physical copies anymore, they charge twice what a movie thier age is worth, and you can only view it for 24 hours.

TV show pay per view like the UFC, is an outright cash cow. $65 to watch an hour of two morons beating eachother up, sometimes even less than that, i call that a ripoff.
and think logically, as an example, lets say 1 in 3 households in the u.s view a UFC fight on that night, do the math and figure out how much the UFC people made sitting on thier butts in thier office, laughing at you paying for it.

i view pay per view in my own eyes, as an illegal money grab.
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