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They probably have a lot of extra 4100 and 6100's that didnt fit in the 95 watt tdp (even 96watt tdp goes up to the 125watt tier) and they are trying to make some more money off of them instead of trashing them. Even though supposedly they are only paying for the good chips from GloFo. I think that the 4170 in an OEM computer would be a decent little cpu as long as the price is right. I run my 8120 at 4.2/4.3ghz and it is plenty fast for my needs. Really hoping they come out with B3 stepping soon though and curious to how much better it will be, even if it is just better binned and overclocks a few hundred mhz higher and memory latency goes down that will be good.
    
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The price for the watercooled kit that comes with the FX 8150 is just an epic fail price there.

Though the 4.2Ghz stock clock FX 4170 sounds nice but whats the point if its still going to be outperformed by older CPU's.
    
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Good question.
OT: Still can't understand anyone who would "pre-order" hardware. rolleyes.gif

if youll recall, the day of release of bulldozer tiger direct quoted approximately 25 days(not exactly sure of the length, but im not far off i know) in shipping, instead of you ordering(pre-ordering) directly from retailer, you are pre-ordering directly from manufacturer. keeps their production numbers and sales numbers pretty close.

edit: curious to see if these cpus are capable of breaking amd's previous records, if not im not sure they are going to be able to use that marketing ploy, as they did with the initial bulldozer release.
    
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My 1100T Thuban still retails for more than a FX x6 CPU that comes 3.8Ghz out of the box....Something is wrong here. thinking.gif
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My 1100T Thuban still retails for more than a FX x6 CPU that comes 3.8Ghz out of the box....Something is wrong here. thinking.gif

It's priced according to performance rolleyes.gif
 
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Why preorder? Not like AMD has a chance of selling out with such a dismal processor line.
post #27 of 32
I don't see why everyone's all "ZOMG y preurrda?"

I mean, it's not a new architecture or even stepping for that matter. It's just the same thing that's been out for a while already, just with different clocks and TDP so the performance is going to be pretty predictable and anyone can look up some current BD benchies and make a very well educated guess as to how these will do... most likely these were some poorly performing chips that didn't quite make it to the current line-up and have been gathering dust while AMD figures what to do with them.

Anyway. 125W TDP, 4GHz stock for a dual-module chip... just when I thought the NetBurst references were getting old.
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Originally Posted by pisstaker View Post

It's priced according to performance rolleyes.gif

Sadly that's true. The Fx series of chips performs far worse than Thuban/Deneb in the majority of cases.

Proof:

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/12/
Notice the 4100 vs. the Phenom II x4 970 (100 Mhz clock difference) - huge difference in performance (in the Resident Evil V benchmark)

Another example:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8

8-core @ 3.6 being almost equalled by a 6-core @ 3.3 Ghz in the second Civ V benchmark
(I use this example as both core speed AND clock count is lower for the Phenom II x6, yet performance is almost equal; and as you can see, the game is well multi-threaded at the jump from 4 cores @ 3.6 -> 6 @ 3.3)

In Crysis Warhead, you see lower per-core performance, and so only really in Metro is there an increase - where the eight cores do in fact come into play.



Also note this:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/9

Power consumption at load is far higher than any other CPU tested. 229W vs. 200W of the x6 or 155W of the 2500k.


Post-overclocking, the eight core is faster than a Phenom II x6 when all cores are utilized, and is only slightly slower, or approximately the same speed when not. However, it uses up more power and generates more heat to equate to the same performance... and still doesn't compete with Intel's latest offerings. That's why the Phenom II x6 is still selling reasonably strongly.


It's also why I can't imagine suggesting anyone buy an Fx 4xxx series CPU. Phenom II x4 are usually cheaper, fit into the same motherboards and perform comparably.
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400$ for FX 6150+ a water cooler!! Lol! I can get the FX 8150p for 240$ new, and H100 for 90-95$ new!! AMD and stupidity are well matched rolleyes.gif
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inb4AMDhate.

Oh..too late. I want to see reviews of this when its out, why? Because the node will have improved a bit over time and may show better performance.
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