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512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, or 64K?

So far, my basic understanding is, if I'm using the drive for large files I should go with 64K and if I have a lot of small files I should stay with the default 4096bytes (or 4K).

I've noticed if I set it as MBR disk, it will not recognize the entire 3TB drive, only the first 2TB, which means I must use GPT disk.

I will be using the drive as a storage drive for single files ranging from 200MB to 20GB, should I go with 64K? or stay at the default 4096 bytes?
 
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Leave it default 4K.
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Leave it default 4K.

Thanks, as I have just discovered as well.
 
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Ok, I noticed something strange with my new 3TB drive. I did a quick format under Disk Management and in AS SSD it's listed as 132096k aligned – OK. Shouldn't it be 1024 or 2048? The drive is on the Marvell 91xx 6G controller.
 
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I have no idea what the alignment should be. Maybe there's a hidden partition on it or something?

I noticed that those 3TB Hitachi Touros have 4KiB sectors. You can format them to MBR, but you have to do it from a 4KiB-aware OS, such as any modern Linux distro.

Once formatted properly, it seems to work well under any OS. I used my 3TB storage drive in Windows XP for months. thumb.gif
     
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I have no idea what the alignment should be. Maybe there's a hidden partition on it or something?
I noticed that those 3TB Hitachi Touros have 4KiB sectors. You can format them to MBR, but you have to do it from a 4KiB-aware OS, such as any modern Linux distro.
Once formatted properly, it seems to work well under any OS. I used my 3TB storage drive in Windows XP for months. thumb.gif

Is there a alignment standard for HDDs in Windows 7 x64? Like how SSDs are [usually] aligned to 1024K?
 
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Is there a alignment standard for HDDs in Windows 7 x64? Like how SSDs are [usually] aligned to 1024K?

Default for drives is 1024 in windows. If you want to align different you need to do so in Diskpart.

All data on the disk will be erased and it will be NTFS formatted.
  1. Open the Start Menu, type diskpart, press Enter
  2. Type list disk, press Enter
  3. Type select disk X (where X is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter
  4. Type clean, press Enter
  5. Type create partition primary align=4096, press Enter
  6. Type active, press Enter
  7. Type format quick fs=ntfs, press Enter
  8. Type assign, press Enter
  9. Type exit, press Enter
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Default for drives is 1024 in windows. If you want to align different you need to do so in Diskpart.
All data on the disk will be erased and it will be NTFS formatted.
  1. Open the Start Menu, type diskpart, press Enter
  2. Type list disk, press Enter
  3. Type select disk X (where X is the number your drive shows up as), press Enter
  4. Type clean, press Enter
  5. Type create partition primary align=4096, press Enter
  6. Type active, press Enter
  7. Type format quick fs=ntfs, press Enter
  8. Type assign, press Enter
  9. Type exit, press Enter

Thanks, what's weird is I left it on default when I formatted the 3TB and default in Windows 7 is 4096. Don't understand why it shows up as 132096k aligned.
 
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Ok, I just discovered that if your drive is formatted GPT it's allocation unit size will always default at 132096K aligned whereas MBR will always default as 1024K aligned under Windows 7.

I'm surprised no one posted this information on OCN considering all the 3TB drives I see people claim to own.
 
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I tried using GPT, but there was no point - Windows 7 x64 didn't like it for some reason.

So I'm using MBR on my 3TB drive... and it's working fine accessing all of it. tongue.gif

I also generally format using SystemRescueCD (Gparted), so I wouldn't know what Windows' default formatting behaviour is. But thanks for filling me in. smile.gif
     
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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Samsung 2343BWX 23" (2048x1152) BenQ GW2765HT 27" IPS LCD Monitor (2560x1440) Genius Keyboard KB-G235 PA 
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Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSU - SS-1000XP Fractal Design Define R5 Steelseries Rival 6500 dcpi Mousepad + Desk 
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Onboard Realtek® ALC 892 Cyber Acoustics CA-2992 2.0 Speakers Razer Krait 1600 DPI nGear G-C1601 Card Reader 
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Pisen Card Reader Gigabyte M7 Thor 
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VIA Eden C7 1200mhz Jetway J7F4K1G2ES-LF VIA Onboard 512MB PC2-4200 
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A-Data FlashDrive None Fanless Linux 
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Headless None 65w Power Brick Antec ISK300-65 
MouseAudio
None Onboard VIA 
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Barton XP-M 2400+ FJQ4C Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe 256MB BFG 7800GS OC 2x512MB Samsung PC3200 
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Raptor 74GB/Seagate 120GB Windows 2000 Pro 60hz 17" CRT Brandless PS2 Keyboard 
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Antec Neo HE 550w Logitech G5 
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