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Hey everyone, I have an extra case, mo-bo, and hard drive, so i'm thinking of building a new system for work ( working on a P4 2.4ghz... ) anyway and since I have all these extra componets, might as well make a system with it.


What I have

- Asus P8P67 EVO mo-bo
- 320gig HD
- Case
( no need for a CD drive, not nessisary )

What I would need

Ram: cheap 4gig ought to be fine
CPU: i'm not too sure on this one, i don't want/cant afford/don't need an i7 or anything, an i5 would be nice, but basically nothing bleeding edge, and the older model CPU's are fine ( Intel only )
GPU cooler: ? Would I need one? I could OC the system if I wanted to.. but i've never messed with air cooling ( always water in my gaming rig ) and don't know how well the stock intel coolers work
PSU: whatever is cheap and can run the system
GPU: not too sure wit this one, I won't be doing any 3-D rendering, and really, in the 2-D drawings I work in, most of the graphics rely on the CPU for refresh speed, and so no powerhouse would be needed here, so i figure a sub $50 card ought to be plenty.

I would LOVE to not spend over $300 if possible, but up to $400 would be acceptable.
( no OS, key, mice, montior, needed )

Basically, with my current work computer, it takes a good 40 mins to boot up, and load AutoCad, so I'm loosing 40mins of time I could be working every day, and the usual freeze, 1min to refresh the drawing, etc... its really burning up company time/money/etc.

Please note, this build would all come out of my own pocket, so budget friendly is great.

Would also love to hear from people who have build dedicated Cad machines, If its gonna cost me a bit to build a system, i'll just wait till our office eventually upgrades all our systems ( but that would take a while ) and worst case senario, i have a 3.2ghz p4 that should fit in my work computer, and just buy other things to make my office nicer, and sell the mother board i no longer need ( RMA took 2 months, so bought another one while they worked on mailing me one )

( new job, and i'm one of those people who spends money where i am the most, so 8 hours a day working, need a good comptuer, office chair, etc )
Edited by ClaytonGFinley - 2/6/12 at 4:40pm
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BUMPAGE.
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For Autocad work, you should look into workstation cards (i.e. nVidia Quadro lineup, AMD/ATi Firepro lineup)

All of the cutting edge stuff is WAY out of your price range though. You may have some luck looking in the marketplace here for used workstation cards.

As for the CPU, a 2600K would be ideal, but again your price range won't allow it.

Workstations aren't cheap, it's sad really.


EDIT: An SSD would cure your load times tremendously.
Edited by That Guy - 2/6/12 at 7:01pm
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How about this?

Intel Xeon E3-1235 paired up with ASRock Z68 Pro3. Xeon E3-1235 is basically Core i7-2600 with ECC RAM support at a cheaper price. You obviously won't use ECC RAM but extra threads from HT is very useful in your work. Xeon E3-1235 has iGPU so no need to buy GPU either. Assuming you are doing fine on P4 2.4 GHz without expensive GPU right now.

PSU: Corsair CX430, Rosewill Green 430 W, or any quality 400 W PSU will do just fine.

RAM: Get 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) 1333 MHz dual channel kit. No need for ECC RAM.

No need for CPU cooler either, just use stock CPU cooler.
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For AutoCAD I don't think the heavy hardware is really needed. I suppose that depends on drawing size though, not too familiar with the 2D side.

Maybe a used 775 rig with a Quadro 600 or a used FX-580.

Edit: Missed that you have a mobo already....

--Alex
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Total comes out to $283 if you go with the i3 2120, or $353 if you spring for the quad-core i5 2400.

I think you'll be fine with 2120, especially because of the Hyperthreading support. I put in 8gb because RAM is so cheap, but if you want to save $15ish, you'd be fine with a pair of these.

As for CPU cooling (I assume you meant CPU cooling, not GPU cooling), you should be okay with the (albeit crappy) stock cooler. I don't know how much room in your case you have to work with, but aftermarket coolers are cheap and plentiful if you decide you want less noise / lower temps.

EDIT: I chose these parts because of how light the workload is in your 2D Autocad program. I don't see the need for 2600's or high-end workstation graphics per your description of your needs.

You'll likely notice a night-and-day difference if you go with the above hardware, but make sure that you also reformat your system if/when you build your new right. You'll see a world of difference from your current rig.
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I would go with the i7 2600 (no K) because having the 8[4 cores/4 hyper threaded] cores over the 4from the 2500k is much more efficient when using something that is core dependent like autocad. And it makes rendering much faster.

This GPU should be enough



Or this one would be a little better


If you are just doing 2d Cad drawings you won't be needing much. How detailed are the models you are working with? If you are just doing nesting and parts files to be cut out on a laser or router, then 4 gb of ram should be sufficient, If you are doing layered comps of automobiles, naval vessels, topo's or architectural models you will want bunches of ram and vram.

(I ignored the budget almost completely, but I took into consideration that you where going to learn how to do 3d modeling in say solidworks in the next few months, and once you start down that road, 2d modeling is just an afterthought for almost everything but cutting out stencils. )
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thanks for the replies guys, I see no point in upgrading my current computer with an ssd and such as in simple 2-d drawings, autocad is maxing the processor at 100%, and its just not worth putting a $100 saddle on a $50 horse.

I know its not going to be crazy good, i just need something decent, i'm an architectural drafter, so most of my files are not very big, and we do have 3d rendering models, but thats in a different department than what i'm in.

my home rig runs cad/revit/etc quite well ( water cooled i7 2600k @ 4.5ghz, wc'ed gtx 580, SSD's etc... )

most of the workstation GPU's are for crazy rendering models, and i'm not looking or needing anything top of the line.

I just have some spare parts and would like to toss together a cheap work computer.

( the case I have will fit anything, its a monster )

really i don't see at this job i'll be doing any rendering.


EDIT: I know how to use all the 3D programs, and can use my home rig if i ever needed to, but at my place of work, ( despite what people say the industry is going to ) 2d drawings are king over 3d modeling simply because they are quick to draw, easy to learn/understand, and tried and true office standards don't have to be re-learned. I was kinda shocked to learn that all the 3d programs the program makers are pushing for schools to teach kids are a simple marking ploy. Considering i've never met anyone who can draw a 3d model as fast as a 2d can be drawn.
Edited by ClaytonGFinley - 2/6/12 at 7:15pm
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thanks for the replies guys, I see no point in upgrading my current computer with an ssd and such as in simple 2-d drawings, autocad is maxing the processor at 100%, and its just not worth putting a $100 saddle on a $50 horse.

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Basically, with my current work computer, it takes a good 40 mins to boot up, and load AutoCad, so I'm loosing 40mins of time I could be working every day...

That's why I suggested an SSD.
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