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hey everyone,

i have been in the computer world for about 15 years now. I have built a handful of computers, but now it is time to built a nice one with alot of though and research in to all.

My first computer that i built was back about 5+ years ago this it what i built.

case: thermaltake tsunami dream
PS: BFG 650w
MOBO: Crosshair 1
CPU: AMD athlon x2
Memory: 6GB corsair
video: BFG Geforce 7600 GTOC
HDD: 2TB Western digital drives
Drives: samsung BLU-ray

I just upgraded the computer to the following and i plan on making it into a media server:
MOBO: ASUS P8Z68-V LX
CPU: i3-2100
Memory: 8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws


Now since i have done this i want to make a halfway decent gaming PC what i have already is the Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T which is a great start to me.

This is what i am thinking of building:

Mobo: Asus z77 (when they comes out)
CPU: i5-3570K ivy bridge (when it comes out)
Video: Two EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores Classified in SLI
PS: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200
Memory: 8GB
HDD: 120GB Corsair Force Series 3
Cooling: Hydro Series H80

i do plan on doing some overclock on the CPU and GPU which this will be the first time to do both, which is why i am here in the first place to learn and to get advice on anything and everything.

So what do you all thing on my past and hopefully future builds??????

Thanks
shawn
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Most people on here would recommend getting at least 2 Gb VRAM (vram does not double on SLI (ie: 2 cards with 1 Gb a piece in SLI= 1 Gb total vram)), since games like BF3 can already use much more than 1 Gb.

Everything else seems ok, though you also would want a HDD of at least 500 Gb

Edit: PSU is a bit overkill for specs
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that is a good point i was thinking about ordering the GTX 560 Ti 448s or waiting on the new nvidia kepler video cards to come out since i am already waiting on ivy bridge.

but i did not know what prices they were going to come out with i was trying to stay under 300 per card.
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If you are waiting for Ivy i would hang tight for Kepler. Can't hurt to see what they have to offer, especially since you won't have a CPU until around the same time as Kepler release.
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Hi! If you are looking to buy an SSD, I'd recommend the Crucial m4 because of the higher data transfer speeds versus other budget ssds such as the one you were viewing as well as the increased stability. I hope that you are using the SSD only as a boot drive, as if you plan on playing games, one modern game is going to be AT LEAST a couple of gigs on your hard drive. Also get the free version of SSDTweaker, it is important that you minimize writes to the SSD
I strongly would recommend to wait a few months until after the ivy bridge release just incase of recalls. Make sure the mobo you get supports the 22 nm cpu, thats what ivy bridge is. The PSU is a safe choice due to the high wattage, but at the same time, I like the OCZ Fully Modular 750W Power Supply, you will get ample power and a better airflow throughout the case providing you cable manage. My preference is the ATI Radeon cards, you can get a lot more cooling, especially on the Gigabyte models, I have one with three fans! On 2 560ti GPUs you are going to spend about 500 dollars on 2 cards as wel as an SLI bridge and then there's the trouble of setting it all up. Try this GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129183&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-VisionTek-_-14129183

It's got 2 graphics cards built in and you dont have to go to trouble of SLI, also there won't be as many driver issues with Battlefield 3.

Another suggestion of mine would be to make sure your ram voltage is the optimal one for the chip, so you can get the max performance out of the hardware and chipset on mobo. Try corsair vengeance, its DDR3 1600 and its got some nice heat spreaders.

lol for my new build I am using the same mobo yyou used to upgrade, ASUS boards are good. I buy mine at my local MicroCenter, as ASUS support is not the best and if your board goes out then they will replace it for you.

HAPPY BUILDING AND BEST OF LUCK! thumb.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCScrub View Post

Most people on here would recommend getting at least 2 Gb VRAM (vram does not double on SLI (ie: 2 cards with 1 Gb a piece in SLI= 1 Gb total vram)), since games like BF3 can already use much more than 1 Gb.
Everything else seems ok, though you also would want a HDD of at least 500 Gb
Edit: PSU is a bit overkill for specs

Agreeing on PSU, but it's not all about quanitity of VRAM. Make sure the core clock is good, memory clock, and if its NVIDIA youre looking for good amount of CUDA cores (to put it in perspective for you 128 is nothing) and stream processors if its and ATI.

Also sandy bridge and ivy bridge are the same technology, just ivy prodge processors are smaller and they will be more expensive. Wait until Ivy bridge comes out and then make a sandy bridge build so you can get the same specs at a discounted price.
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Originally Posted by tiger4291 View Post

Hi! If you are looking to buy an SSD, I'd recommend the Crucial m4 because of the higher data transfer speeds versus other budget ssds such as the one you were viewing as well as the increased stability. I hope that you are using the SSD only as a boot drive, as if you plan on playing games, one modern game is going to be AT LEAST a couple of gigs on your hard drive. Also get the free version of SSDTweaker, it is important that you minimize writes to the SSD
I strongly would recommend to wait a few months until after the ivy bridge release just incase of recalls. Make sure the mobo you get supports the 22 nm cpu, thats what ivy bridge is. The PSU is a safe choice due to the high wattage, but at the same time, I like the OCZ Fully Modular 750W Power Supply, you will get ample power and a better airflow throughout the case providing you cable manage. My preference is the ATI Radeon cards, you can get a lot more cooling, especially on the Gigabyte models, I have one with three fans! On 2 560ti GPUs you are going to spend about 500 dollars on 2 cards as wel as an SLI bridge and then there's the trouble of setting it all up. Try this GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129183&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-VisionTek-_-14129183

It's got 2 graphics cards built in and you dont have to go to trouble of SLI, also there won't be as many driver issues with Battlefield 3.
Another suggestion of mine would be to make sure your ram voltage is the optimal one for the chip, so you can get the max performance out of the hardware and chipset on mobo. Try corsair vengeance, its DDR3 1600 and its got some nice heat spreaders.
lol for my new build I am using the same mobo yyou used to upgrade, ASUS boards are good. I buy mine at my local MicroCenter, as ASUS support is not the best and if your board goes out then they will replace it for you.
HAPPY BUILDING AND BEST OF LUCK! thumb.gif

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i will for sure look at the Crucial m4 SSD and try to see what everyone says about them and there specs. i am going to most likly add a 500 GB or 1TB hard drive to the PC for everything else, i just left it off.

Also i know you guys are trying to help with the video card and everything and thanks for the infromation it is great to have it all. I have been a nvidia guy since day one. Yes i have seen what ATI can do since my work has all ATI and i have to work on them all the time. I just like Nvidia and i plan on staying with nvidia for this build.

even if you have more information, hey i will take it because to much is never enough

thanks
shawn
Edited by autoxspeed7 - 2/6/12 at 8:23pm
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I have 2 GTX 570's in SLI mate and I play BF3 with full settings like a charm. Like you, I love Nvidia. thumb.gif

Welcome to the family BTW.
Edited by K62-RIG - 2/6/12 at 8:22pm
post #10 of 12
New build looks pretty solid. If you stick with those specs the 1200w psu is pretty unnecessary. You could get away with a 750w. Welcome smile.gif
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