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post #1 of 33
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hi,

I'm new to this forum and thanks for any suggestions and help in advance.

I'm no hardware expert but ive been researching a lot and asking people and asking my stepson about building a rig for me just for my 3d/CAD/graphics editing needs.

The rig I had in mind based on my research was:

processor: i7-2600k
mobo: Asus Maximus IV Extreme LGA 1155 P67 2400 ATX
Chassis: Cool Master HAF-X
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 580
Cooling System: Corsair H70
PSU: Corsair AX 1200
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSD
DVD: Anything
HDD: Anything
anything else: Please let me know.


The problem now is my stepson thinks the above rig is way too much and unecessary and so based on his conclusion he says the following is all I need:

processor: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
mobo: ASRock Z68M-ITX/HT Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
Chassis: LIAN LI PC-Q08B Black Computer Case
Graphics Card: EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 02G-P3-1469-KR Video Card
Cooling System: CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W Semi-modular Power Supply
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory
SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
DVD: LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
anything else: Please let me know.

Now if someone can tell me if the system I researched is better or the one my stepson mentioned? Please try to break it down in simple terms so I understand better, thanks a bunch! If you could explain a bit on why one is better than the other too, it would help a lot.

Thanks
post #2 of 33
well the programs you listed use HT so a 2600k will be great! and i would get a cheaper case and psu and shot for a quadro
 
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post #3 of 33
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well the programs you listed use HT so a 2600k will be great! and i would get a cheaper case and psu and shot for a quadro

maybe one of theses
 
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intel 2500k MSI mpower Z77 MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6950 2GB Kingston HyperX  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
wd green tb  LG Sata sunbeam twister Windows 7 
MonitorPowerCase
HP 2009m+ 40inch HD tv ozt zt 750watt open bench  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD phenom 9650 Stock HP Motherboard Geforce 9100 8 GIGs ddr 2 
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Samsung WD WHS 2011 HP 2009m ( 1600x 900 ) 
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wd green tb  LG Sata sunbeam twister Windows 7 
MonitorPowerCase
HP 2009m+ 40inch HD tv ozt zt 750watt open bench  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD phenom 9650 Stock HP Motherboard Geforce 9100 8 GIGs ddr 2 
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post #4 of 33
The powersupply is overkill. Shoot for something smaller and cheaper to save some money.
post #5 of 33
Thread Starter 
thanks, I could go down in the PSU, no issues there.
post #6 of 33
Definitely don't go with the 2500k, you could use the hyper threading. The graphics card will do fantastic for your needs as it supports CUDA, and you could play some games wink.gif

You might want to go with more RAM as you are doing some heavy duty tasks. I'm not an expert on CAD or workstation like programs, but I do know they use a lot of RAM.
post #7 of 33
Thread Starter 
I could down in the PSU, no issues there. As for the casing too, I dont mind going for sometihng cheaper if it is actually *good*. My budget is a bit flexible, I've set aside $2k for this rig alone. As for the graphics card, I've heard for 3d stuff Geforce outperforms the quadros which is why I went with that.

But compared to the machine I mentioned vs my stepson's, what would you add and remove ?


Thanks
post #8 of 33
This all depends on the software your using and the model sizes.

Either way, don't skimp on the RAM. I'd say 16GB minimum.

Graphics cards depends on software. Solidworks has a thing for Quadro cards, but some rendering software can take advantage of CUDA GPUS. If that's the case, get the 580 and suck up any Solidworks shortcomings.

CPU is dependent as well. If your using the GPU for processing, this becomes less of an issue. If it will all be CPU, then go for the 2600.

You'll need some fast drives as well. From what I've seen, write speeds with these files is better on a mechanical RAID0 array than on an SSD. A lot of people here won't agree with me on that, but I'd opt for 2+ Velociraptors in RAID0.

--Alex
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post #9 of 33
Thread Starter 
Saounds good., so I should go with the machine I researched but just with a smaller PSU? Everything else sounds good compared to my stepson's machine?
post #10 of 33
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Ah thanks for the reply. never though of a RAID but that might go outside my budget I think. frown.gif
Btw I won't be using Solidworks, for 3d I'll be using mostly blender, Lightworks or Maya
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