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AntiSec is not in the security industry,

Way to state the obvious... You want a cookie? Too bad Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit.. Oh, wait, you're unable to actually understand that part...

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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

I'll post anywhere I please. When you own OCN and make the rules, then you can enforce your childish stance. Until then, you can refrain from telling me what to do and stick it.
As it stands, your Original post says
"ANTISEC LEAKS SYMANTEC PCANYWHERE SOURCE CODE....."
As others have said, the outrage is against them doing such a thing. We're not talking about details of the exploit, we're talking about the actual dump of the source code. Then you go on a tirade about "that's how the industry works" and blahblahfrickinblah. No one ever disputed that.
Just admit that you were the one who caused the confusion by not iterating who you were talking about in your posts. Not that hard. Yet you're still going on and on.

Way to fail in not reading the articles sourced in this thread before commenting.... For the 10th or so time, Antisec did not leak the source code. I already commented on the bad journalism in the first article, which is why I added another source with more information. But you'd have to know how to read to figure that one out. So, good luck on that. When you learn how to read articles before posting, you can come back and comment in my thread.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 2/7/12 at 5:03pm
post #102 of 113
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post

Way to state the obvious... You want a cookie? Too bad Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit.. Oh, wait, you're unable to actually understand that part...
Way to fail in not reading the articles sourced in this thread before commenting.... For the 10th or so time, Antisec did not leak the source code. I already commented on the bad journalism in the first article, which is why I added another source with more information. But you'd have to know how to read to figure that one out. So, good luck on that. When you learn how to read articles before posting, you can come back and comment in my thread.

I think quite a few people on here have a lot of hate for anything Anon/Sec related. They are unable to think rationally. If not Antisec, it would have been someone else. Insecure code will eventually be discovered.
post #103 of 113
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Way to state the obvious... You want a cookie? Too bad Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit.. Oh, wait, you're unable to actually understand that part...
Way to fail in not reading the articles sourced in this thread before commenting.... For the 10th or so time, Antisec did not leak the source code. I already commented on the bad journalism in the first article, which is why I added another source with more information. But you'd have to know how to read to figure that one out. So, good luck on that. When you learn how to read articles before posting, you can come back and comment in my thread.



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Maybe you should actually read what we are saying. Or maybe read the source.

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Have you read it? You obviously will never understand.
Try to actually read and comprehend it. Your inability to read it isn't our fault. Sorry, but you not reading isn't something we can help you with.
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Read it?
Maybe... if you just read it.

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Learn to read son, I never said Antisec was an essential part of the system or that bad things would happen if they weren't. lachen.gif
I said that the disclosure method of reporting to the vendor and releasing it publicly afterwards is standard practice. Something you would know if you were involved in the industry.
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post

lachen.gif Oh, man, you guys are killing me. You might want to go and read up on how and why public disclosure works before embarrassing yourself any more. All the links have been provided and you can choose to either read and learn or continue to stick your head in the sand. You might want to start with something simple, like this: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/about/faq/
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Well, I can't force you to read but if you ever decide to try it, you'll find all you need to know on how to exploit it from the original links. Basic reading skills and ability to follow instructions standing of course. It's not my job to hold your hand and do everything for you.
Your difficulty in understanding that vulnerabilities are disclosed to the vendor and then released publicly after given enough time to patch it, is not something I can help you with. Joseph19 is incorrect, as Symantec has not and will not disclose how to exploit the application. That information is already in the public domain though through other sites. This thread is both about the source code being released and the exploit being disclosed. You might want to try reading the first post again...
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You obviously are having difficulty reading what is written rather than what you want to hear. I never said Antisec disclosed the vulnerability. They didn't. Antisec isn't even the one who released the source code... If you had read the articles, you would know who did. On Jan 26, Symantec advised its users to disable the product until they issued a patch. Antisec was already in discussion with the undercover FBI agent taunting them to patch the app or the source would be released at that time. These are two separate issues. Nowhere did I ever say Antisec disclosed the exploits. Is something wrong with you? Why is that so difficult to understand?
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You should try reading the first post before trying to tell me what I made this thread about. doh.gif I know exactly what this thread is on since I made it... Antisec didn't even release the source code... You haven't read anything pertaining to this thread. People crying about the exploit being released publicly is what I've been responding to. If you can't understand that, you shouldn't be posting in my thread.
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lachen.gif Because you could even remotely understand what to do with the source or even figure out how to use the exploit? hahahaha. Yes, it's just ONE website that's involved in public disclosure... You definitely have an understanding of how the security industry works, yet you don't even know the difference between who leaked the source and who discovered the vulnerability. But, hey, you know better than professionals who get paid to do this kind of work. It's apparently all about making companies look bad.... lachen.gif
Next time, before commenting on an article, do more than simply read the headline... No wonder you're having such trouble. By publicly disclosing the vulnerability, they're helping everyone by forcing the company to address the issue. Symantec tried to ignore it until they were threatened with a source code leak of PCAnywhere and Norton AntiVirus. For some reason, you have difficulty separating these two events. I again, am having to repeat myself and it's getting quite boring.
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Way to state the obvious... You want a cookie? Too bad Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit.. Oh, wait, you're unable to actually understand that part...
Way to fail in not reading the articles sourced in this thread before commenting.... For the 10th or so time, Antisec did not leak the source code. I already commented on the bad journalism in the first article, which is why I added another source with more information. But you'd have to know how to read to figure that one out. So, good luck on that. When you learn how to read articles before posting, you can come back and comment in my thread.

Edited by Zinxe - 2/7/12 at 5:34pm
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Way to state the obvious... You want a cookie? Too bad Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit.. Oh, wait, you're unable to actually understand that part...

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19695/antisec_leaks_symantec_pcanywhere_source_code_after_50k_extortion_not_paid
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AntiSec leaks Symantec pcAnywhere source code after $50k extortion not paid

Oh let's see who uploaded the data shall we?....
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Next time, before commenting on an article, do more than simply read the headline... No wonder you're having such trouble. By publicly disclosing the vulnerability, they're helping everyone by forcing the company to address the issue. Symantec tried to ignore it until they were threatened with a source code leak of PCAnywhere and Norton AntiVirus. For some reason, you have difficulty separating these two events. I again, am having to repeat myself and it's getting quite boring.

Dude, trust me, before posting in this thread I read four of the sources that came up in this thread discussing the AntiSec/Sym situation. Guess what? All of them discuss AntiSec's participation in the source code leak (or "Anon" if you'd prefer to use that nomenclature). You're the only person who keeps going back to who told Symantec first about their security vulnerabilities--I don't care, nor did I ever care, who told them first. I was more concerned with the lack of ethics and morality that AntiSec practiced in releasing the source code after they got what they claimed to have been fighting for. Nothing else.

You say one thing, then you say the opposite. More than once. Trust me, I have no reading comprehension issues and it's not like I'm taking anything you've said out of context. You said things earlier in the thread and blatantly claim later in the thread to have said no such thing. And then you profess about how no one here works in the industry, that we don't understand what's going on or how the system works. I don't think WE'RE the ones with comprehension issues.

If AntiSec wasn't responsible for the source code leak, (a) why does the source you used claim otherwise, and (b) what entity was it? Not that it matters.
    
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Really? I'm commenting right now. I'm commenting right now. What are you going to do about it? You can't stop me. I'll post anywhere and everywhere I please.
Regardless of what clarifications you made, many have already read the sources prior, so your little clarification, does about zilch. You've managed to insult and piss off the majority of people in this thread. Everyone in this thread can't be wrong. So that puts it down on you. Take responsibility once in a while. It'll get you further.

You going to keep throwing a temper tantrum or actually comment on the thread for once? I added the 2nd source 5 minutes after I made the original post. You can keep whining about how you think Antisec shouldn't of leaked the source but you're just embarrassing yourself. Commenting before reading the articles is a common problem in the news section. Can't help you if you don't know how to read.
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/19695/antisec_leaks_symantec_pcanywhere_source_code_after_50k_extortion_not_paid
Oh let's see who uploaded the data shall we?....

What a surprise!

Wow, are you really this dense, or are you just trolling? The exploit and source are two completely different groups. Maybe you missed the part that said "Antisec wasn't involved in releasing the exploit". Look again, but this time, at the real source: http://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-12-018/
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You going to keep throwing a temper tantrum or actually comment on the thread for once? I added the 2nd source 5 minutes after I made the original post. You can keep whining about how you think Antisec shouldn't of leaked the source but you're just embarrassing yourself. Commenting before reading the articles is a common problem in the news section. Can't help you if you don't know how to read.

lachen.gif This entire thread, you have been throwing the tantrum. In almost every post, you claim anyone against you hasn't even read the source. It is apparent you haven't read it. You are embarrassing yourself. Just read up on it, and maybe you might understand.
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Anyone know why this happened?
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Editor's Note: This story was updated at 10:02 PM on Feb. 6 with an updated statement from Symantec. This story has also been corrected to note that Yamatough is a member of the Lords of Dharmaraja, a group loosely affiliated with Anonymous.

Is this what Poopa was referring to?
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Anyone know why this happened?

Which? The source or exploit? They were both originally planned to be disclosed publicly from the beginning. I don't think they've said why they leaked the source. It was used to force Symantec to finally patch the vulnerability though.
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