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post #21 of 113
Extortion is a crime, regardless of where the money ends up.

Posting copyrighted material (which is what this code is, or it would have been available already as open source) is a crime.

A good prosecutor would include wire fraud since it was done online.

Taking from the rich to give to the poor and unfortunate was a crime when Robin Hood did it (and he got what he deserved), and AntiSec deserves to be in jail.
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Originally Posted by Joephis19 View Post

Extortion is a crime, regardless of where the money ends up.
Posting copyrighted material (which is what this code is, or it would have been available already as open source) is a crime.
A good prosecutor would include wire fraud since it was done online.
Taking from the rich to give to the poor and unfortunate was a crime when Robin Hood did it (and he got what he deserved), and AntiSec deserves to be in jail.

I fixed the title as they never actually tried to extort anyone. Bad journalists are bad. Symantec offered to pay to keep source under wraps.
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i guess this is what i get for using norton internet security.
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I fixed the title as they never actually tried to extort anyone. Bad journalists are bad. Symantec offered to pay to keep source under wraps.

Well.....2 out of 3 ain't bad smile.gif
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They're forcing Symantec to finally patch their buggy code. Everyone ultimately benefits from this. Reporting known exploits isn't a crime...

But the only reason they have to do that now is because of a targeted attack to obtain the source code and release it in the first place. But for that, "patching" it wouldn't be necessary. It's a catch 22.

Publicly releasing parts of source code used in previous versions of their software is not at all like reporting a bug to them privately. This isn't some good-willed "hey, we wanted to help you out here" action--it's malicious, and sadly the likely outcome will be even more clamping down on the various freedoms that average people enjoy on the internet.
    
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The big guys getting hurt will always hurt the end users in some way. Big corps pretty much all offer services or products to end users. Hurting them will always hurt end users. The problem is that if big corps are never hurt, they will do whatever they want and I believe that will hurt the end user more in the long run. Things are not black and white. Don't make it out to be like that.

The end user gets hurt in the short run (more so if the corporation doesn't damage control) but there is almost always an alternative who won't make that same mistake. Short run hurt is better than long run.
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They're forcing Symantec to finally patch their buggy code. Everyone ultimately benefits from this. Reporting known exploits isn't a crime...

Next time my neighbor forgets to lock their door, I'll be sure to raid their home and steal as much as I can. It isn't a crime, I just found an exploit in their home security. They learn to protect their stuff better, they buy replacements which stimulate the economy, and I get a ton of free stuff. It is an obvious win-win for everyone. rolleyes.gif
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Next time my neighbor forgets to lock their door, I'll be sure to raid their home and steal as much as I can. It isn't a crime, I just found an exploit in their home security. They learn to protect their stuff better, they buy replacements which stimulate the economy, and I get a ton of free stuff. It is an obvious win-win for everyone. rolleyes.gif

You're trying to compare security researchers helping companies find and patch buggy code to stealing from your neighbor? What is wrong with you? You have no understanding of what the importance of white-hats are to society. If they were trying to be malicious, they never would of shared it with Symantec or made it public. They'd be making money off it secretly. Do I really need to explain this to you?
post #29 of 113
Hi,
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Antisec really belongs in jail. Anon is bad enough being misguided terrorists but Antisec actively chooses to commit crimes.

Criminals are the ones trying to transform internet in a tyranny playground.
All Anon and Antisec are doing is to fight back like all the people that created Liberty and Freedom did for many centuries and many died for it.
For those who died for us to be in this forum today had the exact same ideals as Anon and Antisec. And they were not cowards.
Be ashamed to even dare to speak against them.
If Symantec is loosing source code, their problem.


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My work uses Symantec. I sent them this article, so maybe they will finally move to something else.

Hopefully they do.
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