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I hate digital distribution system and DLC

this gen is sad

last gen developers give us complete games and the games were ours
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post #112 of 170
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Originally Posted by GTR Mclaren View Post

I hate digital distribution system and DLC
this gen is sad
last gen developers give us complete games and the games were ours

While I definitely agree that game were released in better quality before it was easy to toss out patch after patch on the Internet. You always could have had your game key made invalid. Though if all you were doing is playing a single player game there would have been no reason for it...unless a cheater was using your game key online. Then again, most ELUAs are worded so that even using a no CD crack is grounds for banning for game key. So even in single player a person could get banned. It was just near impossible for the game publisher to find that out back in the day

So the developers/publishers always could take your games away from you...The newer DRM an online aspects just makes it easier for them to do so. Some places are starting to get out of control with it and need to be slapped down a notch or two. The Steam ban policy is down right nuts and one day it will bite them in the rear. Though origin is no better with forum bans blocking access to games as well...that might even qualify as worse.
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post #113 of 170
With the way it is right now, I wouldn't bother getting back into gaming until the whole system is figured out.

Steam definitely needs a call line and much better customer support, along with a revised ToS/EULA to accompany the changes.
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If steam banned my account i would sue them, or at leased try. I wouldn't even want money from them, just my account unblocked.

You along with another 50,000 across the USA. I would join you since they would have little to no proof. Not to mention doing this would risk their reputation and probably cause a severe reflux of users. Pretty sure it would be something like a reenactment of the Napster incident with Metallica.
     
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for the price we pay? I would whine a bit about losing the games, but in reality i'd be thankful to pay $3-7 for most of my games.
Just make sure to play through your backlog before you lose $$ of unplayed games tongue.gif
    
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Wouldn't sit well with wives or girlfriends, doubt it will be any better with Steam/Valve biggrin.gif

touche.

i just think there should be a warning system and then a ban, that way someone who is mistakenly tagged can have a chance to prove his innocence, or someone who is maybe a first time aimbotter could be scared straight.

i don't really know about the whole cheating culture though, especially in a multiplayer environment. never done it, don't plan on doing it. i don't see the point of rigging a competitive environment that has no meaningful outcome.

woohoo i am top 50 on my server because of my exploit!

to me it is just yet another method of trolling, a cry for attention, and is a really bad trend for this generation.

when i was in college (OSU, btw) we got into a halo tournament on campus. we were pretty good against our limited competition so we felt pretty good going into the tourney. well apparently team ogre was in the neighborhood and decided to show up. we were playing our way through our brackets completely oblivious to who team ogre was, but we noticed that they were putting up scores like ours against the frat boys so we figured they were good.

they were in our bracket so we had to play them in the semis, we got up 25-17 or so and then lost something like 50-27 when they got their little rotation going. i don't know if it was really them or not, i didn't look up that name until after i got home when someone had said something about who they were, but they were pretty good regardless.

the moral of this story is:

when you're getting destroyed at a multiplayer game you can work at it to get better, or learn some good insults about how the guy who beat you has no life, lives at home, has nothing else to do but play the game, etc.

there's no need to cheat.
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What I hate is that I can't play my game with my saved data without the internet. Im a visitor on my own computed at that point. I lived in a city where summer heat brought rolling internet blackouts and it used to upset me.
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What I hate is that I can't play my game with my saved data without the internet. Im a visitor on my own computed at that point. I lived in a city where summer heat brought rolling internet blackouts and it used to upset me.

Really? I've never even used the offline mode for Steam, but I thought that savegames/progress are stored locally on your drive, and only sync'd to Steam?
    
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You don't seem to understand what I was saying.. perhaps incapable? Cheating/hacking isn't bad unless it's done in a negative way online where it actually affects others. You can cheat in singleplayer/etc and it not be a problem. Hence console commands and the like.

Cheating / hacking in the sense of illegal use of third parties to manipulate software to be used in not the intended manner is not the same thing as using in-game cheats. Built in cheats that a player uses by using game controls is perfectly accepted. If a multiplayer server allowed in-game cheats to be used (think half life 1 LAN games tongue.gif ) then that is a feature.

The issue is changing the software or using third parties to manipulate the intended purpose.
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i've experienced this first hand with the app store.. Bought Vending machine champ and around 4.0 it was taken off and I can't play it anymore!
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