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Just put together my new system with following specs...

P5B dlx
E6600 (SL9S8, batch L627A906, 08/30/06)
Antec Trio 550 psu

What I'm finding is even with very conservative overclocking the temps seems really high. I started off with the Big Typhoon + AS5 and then switched over to Intel stock cooling just to compare. Both resulted in around same temps (~1-2 degrees). When I removed the BT, the thermal grease seemed to be perfectly spread (used recommended grain of rice method). Intel HS is now using stock thermal material.

Here are some results...

FSB @ 300 (2.7005 cpu), mem mult 2 (600), Vcore set to AUTO

Temps (Idle/Prime95 Load)

38/57c Asus PC Probe

45/63c CoreTemp

mb 35c


Stock Speeds (266/2.4ghz)

31/52c PC Probe

36/57c CoreTemp

mb 34c

After a couple of hours of heavy Prime95 testing at both speeds I didn't get any errors..but the temps just seem to hot to be safe. All of these readings are with my case cover off. They go up about 5 degrees with it closed. Am I crazy or do these seem really hot for such moderate overclocking? I'm tempted to try another aftermarket cooler, but after such poor results with the Big Typhoon I'm skeptical. Any ideas or suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,
Mitch
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post #2 of 19
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Ok, been running some more tests with P95 at higher speeds.

Went up to 320fsb (2.88ghz) then tried 333fsb (3ghz) and noticed my temps remained at about the same level at idle and load as 300fsb (+- 1 degree). However, at 333 P95 would give me the following error on both instances after a few minutes..

"FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4"

I have my Vcore locked to 1.325v right now. Should I try bumping up to 1.35 and give it another go at 333fsb?

Thanks,
Mitch
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post #3 of 19
First, fill in your "System Specs" via the User CP at the top of the page. Knowing what you have will get you more attention.
    
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Ya fill in your specs at usercp button on the top of the page, makes things much easier.

Did you really clean the surfaces well before you put the BT on? Clean off all the old paste. Then once you think it's clean, clean it again, and then maybe once or twice more. Then once you really know it's clean (both cpu and BT), make sure there's no residue or debris whatsoever, then do the BB size dab and reseat. Do this every time you switch coolers. Also, make sure you have your BT seated tight enough, nice 'n snug to the cpu, although you don't wanna go crazy and overtighten with all you're might either.


Use different temp programs (Intel TAT, speefan, asus pc probe, coretemp, etc), then you need to compare you're results with what others are getting with the same cooling/cpu/mobo. Good luck with it .
    
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post #5 of 19
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Roscoe,

The BT was the first heatsink I put on the cpu, and I did make sure everything was clean just in case. Even gave the heatsink a wipe with 91% alcohol and a coffee filter just to be safe. As I said before, when I removed the BT it looked like the AS5 had been spread pretty much perfectly...but maybe the nuts were not tight enough. Anyway, I think I'd prefer another cooling solution since the BT was way to tall for my case, putting the fan too close to the cover panel for my taste (all my heat testing was doe with the cover OFF btw).

Thanks,
Mitch

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Originally Posted by RoscoeMcGurk
Ya fill in your specs at usercp button on the top of the page, makes things much easier.

Did you really clean the surfaces well before you put the BT on? Clean off all the old paste. Then once you think it's clean, clean it again, and then maybe once or twice more. Then once you really know it's clean (both cpu and BT), make sure there's no residue or debris whatsoever, then do the BB size dab and reseat. Do this every time you switch coolers. Also, make sure you have your BT seated tight enough, nice 'n snug to the cpu, although you don't wanna go crazy and overtighten with all you're might either.


Use different temp programs (Intel TAT, speefan, asus pc probe, coretemp, etc), then you need to compare you're results with what others are getting with the same cooling/cpu/mobo. Good luck with it .
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post #6 of 19
Your specs say your using stock cooling is that right? My Big T temps under TAT at 3.6ghz *e6600 run around 60c on both cores under full load folding.

How much AS5 did you put on? I dont use much at all in fact I use almost none
1) I spread a foggy coating over the bottom of the Big T. By foggy I do this by placing 1/8 BB sized dot and spread it until it just fogs the shine.
2) I then add the usual 1/2 BB size dot dead center of the CPU heat shield.
3) I alternate the screw tightening in a criscross fashion so that I am applying even pressure across the CPU.

You probably did the same thing right? If not you might want to consider it regardless of the cooling you are using...(with the exception of phase and if you want details on that PM me
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post #7 of 19
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Thanks for all the great info and advice, guys. So, any recommendations for a replacement cooler for the Big Typhoon that isnt as tall? Even something that is an inch or two shorter would work much better in my case.

-M
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post #8 of 19
Why not just replace the stock 54CFM fan on the BT, for something higher?
I suggest the SilverStone FM121 110CFM fan.
That BT and FM121 combo keeps my C2D (2.90ghz 1.34Vcore) under 47C dual Prime95 and 54C during Intel TAT 100% Load on both cores.

Edit:

\\/ The FM121 is the same size as stock fan....but whatever you say
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post #9 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ckp64
Why not just replace the stock 54CFM fan on the BT, for something higher?
I suggest the SilverStone FM121 110CFM fan.
That BT and FM121 combo keeps my C2D (2.90ghz 1.34Vcore) under 47C dual Prime95 and 54C during Intel TAT 100% Load on both cores.
Because, as I said, it's too tall.
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post #10 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderhole
Because, as I said, it's too tall.
go with the zalman 9500 it cools just as well and blows out the back instead of sucking air in form the top. It will cool just as well with your case closed and I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise...any takers
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