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I think there are some practical considerations, like why would someone who (allegedly) acquired songs without necessarily paying for them want to pay an extra $25/year to Apple to cloud-sync their non-itunes songs to their iCloud drive? Yes, I understand that these songs aren't necessarily ones they've "pirated," and could be from some other music distribution source.

The match + convert (or rather replace) idea is pretty innovative--I wonder how much convincing it took to get some record labels to finally jump on board.

But this would be a great way for someone to legitimize their library of pirated music files. Pay for a single year of the service, let it dump your crappy/illegit files for legit ones from iTunes, download them, cancel the service, win.
    
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I think there are some practical considerations, like why would someone who (allegedly) acquired songs without necessarily paying for them want to pay an extra $25/year to Apple to cloud-sync their non-itunes songs to their iCloud drive? Yes, I understand that these songs aren't necessarily ones they've "pirated," and could be from some other music distribution source.
The match + convert (or rather replace) idea is pretty innovative--I wonder how much convincing it took to get some record labels to finally jump on board.
But this would be a great way for someone to legitimize their library of pirated music files. Pay for a single year of the service, let it dump your crappy/illegit files for legit ones from iTunes, download them, cancel the service, win.

But, that would evidently lock all of your shiny new songs into iTunes for eternity, right? Which, kind of goes against one of the biggest reasons for piracy in the first place... Freedom.
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The cost of marketing is alot more than you would think.
For example, a company may spend as much as $2-$5 per fan on a facebook page for a new/upcoming artist, depending on the talent and genre of music
Ads are extremely expensive, especially in the day and age when everything is steamed and torrented
But, yes, there is alot of difference between the 2, but I think record labels deserve a great deal of the money earned, as they work hard to promote it

BUT....

A big one here, don't the CEOs/Board members of these Record Labels make/take 90% of that 88%? leaving 10% for the "others" involved in the marketing of these artists/songs?
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Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

I think there are some practical considerations, like why would someone who (allegedly) acquired songs without necessarily paying for them want to pay an extra $25/year to Apple to cloud-sync their non-itunes songs to their iCloud drive? Yes, I understand that these songs aren't necessarily ones they've "pirated," and could be from some other music distribution source.
The match + convert (or rather replace) idea is pretty innovative--I wonder how much convincing it took to get some record labels to finally jump on board.
But this would be a great way for someone to legitimize their library of pirated music files. Pay for a single year of the service, let it dump your crappy/illegit files for legit ones from iTunes, download them, cancel the service, win.
It's pretty cheap, so I don't think anyone would care about it if they actually used the iTunes match service.
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But, that would evidently lock all of your shiny new songs into iTunes for eternity, right? Which, kind of goes against one of the biggest reasons for piracy in the first place... Freedom.
There's no DRM on matched music.
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I don't understand how this works and what exactly its purpose is besides an attempt to fill the wallets of Apple and numerous record execs. Can someone provide more info?
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The old days used to have artists work towards getting known and with that, created skills and talents that made their music much better. Now, most throw it through some software, youtube, or auto tune themselves and they make it big...
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By giving a royalty for users uploading their own music... Apple is either:

1. Admitting that it's 99.9999% most likely pirated music
2. Double-charging you for music you bought elsewhere.

Apple's only concern should be hosting the music, covering their server expenses and making a profit. Clearly, the $25 per 25,000 stolen songs business model will get musicians nowhere. On a large scale, if over 99% of it is legal music, then on average "you" are double-paying for music you bought already.

Anyways, Google music is free, why bother with this? And who has hoards of low-quality music?
 
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Are you serious? 12% sounds good to you? Agents only get 12% from actors and actresses.
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I don't understand how this works and what exactly its purpose is besides an attempt to fill the wallets of Apple and numerous record execs. Can someone provide more info?
iTunes Match allows you to stream your music from the cloud. Unlike other services, it doesn't upload all your music, rather it scans your library and "matches" any songs that you own, and allows you to stream those songs from their services, and any songs it can't match it allows you to upload. If your music is bought from iTunes it'll still have DRM, if you bought it elsewhere and it has no DRM, then it's free.

Essentially, you're paying Apple $25 a year to allow you to stream your music to your devices.

My understanding of the monies so far is: Apple takes a 30% cut of that which leaves $17.5, and the studios get 88% of that, which leaves $2.1 for the artist. Who gets the money is calculated by how many times a song is accessed. That's not very much money split over a thousand songs, but if you take into account how many people are using this service it becomes a lot more. Say there's ten million, that's 250 million per year, and 88% of that goes to studios and artists. (My understanding may be wrong, but this is where I'm at so far.)

You're getting paid, not only for music you've sold, but also for music that's been pirated. A pretty nifty system, I must say.
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Bypassing the middleman so artists could get 90%.. Isn't this why Swizz Beatz wanted to be CEO of Megaupload before it's seizure? hmmm
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