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post #271 of 794
RX performs better at lower rpm but EX wins at mid-high speeds. The EX performs well on low speeds too so I would just keep those wink.gif Or get some 80mm thick nexxxos monsta rads tongue.gif
Some sweet kit btw!
Edited by Blizlake - 3/31/12 at 2:08pm
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Well I'm at work right now and can't see the pic mad.gif As for the rad's it really depends on how low you want to keep your RPM's. Here is a really good write up on the rads and more, 16 in total.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1190800/bundymania-user-review-triple-radiator-360-roundup-16-rads-tested

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I would stick with the ex rads. Those xigmateks will be nearly silent when throttled down to roughly 1000-1200 rpm (where I ran mine on my ex wink.gif). Great fans and very good rads. Nice a thin, so easy to use and set up.
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I spent all day rounding up some needed items to move this build along.

I'm torn on which fans to use, I may do a mix of cougars and xiggys. I really like how the xigmatek's blades look in action, but I am genuinely surprised at the performance of the Cougar vortexs. I have bought so many fans over the past few years is search of the perfect mix between noise and performance, and I think I have a new favorite in the Cougars. It's too bad that they dont match my color scheme as well as the xiggys.

I ordered a full set of xigmateks (120s and 140s, old style) because I have always liked them and thought they were pretty good and not to loud. But when I plugged in the single 140mm Cougar vortex, I was literally blown away. The air blown out the back seems somehow concentrated/focused and it honestly is about the quietest fan ever unless you compare it to a stock lian li that runs @600 rpm, and it's probably still quieter! The only noise I could make out is the whoosing of air- Needless to say, I also ordered a full set of the cougars also. I'll either rma the ones Idon't use (and pay shipping and a 15% restocking fee) or try to sell them here on OCN.

I whole-heartily recommend the cougars as an alternative to noctuas and gentle typhoons as possibly the new king of fans thumb.gif

Anyway, sorry about the rave/wall of text, I think I've been in front of my screen too long lol. I was messing aroung with the rads and fans last night and managed to get a couple pictures of how the xiggys look with their orange blades and white leds-

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Those fans look absolutely bad@ss! I love 'em wubsmiley.gif
I did however notice a grumbly soung emitting from both of the 140mm xiggys that I have never noticed before, probably because it isnt very loud and gets drowned out by multiple fans. But compared to the cougars- well, there's no comparison when it comes to the air that you feel getting pushed around and the almost silence.

But those xiggys look so damn good, hence the dilemma. The cougars just are the wrong shade of orange. I though about maybe painting them, but I am worried of throwing off the balance/impeding the performance. The orange is just a shade off, not sure if it would be worth it to paint them, especially since I'm not sure how to get the blade off haha. There is no snap ring under the sticker on the back...

I also thought about modding some leds into the fan, but where would I hide the wires? and I would have to incorporate a resister somewhere too.. seems impractal to have wires wrapping around the frame of the fans..

I also noticed that the built in fan controller on the Cosmos II is absolute crap. Instead of lowering the voltage, it rapidly turn off/on the power to the fan, causing a flickering in the xigmateks leds (and any led fan I assume, besides CM's own led fans that use a sepatate power lead for the leds), making a strobe effect and provoking me into a flashback. This is a pretty crap method of slowing down a fans rpms if you ask me, so I will be getting a fan controller for the top-most 5.25" bay.

By the way, can someone please tell me why my loops always cost so much?? I mean god-damn devil.gif I was able to justify the binge spending because of all the overtime I got last week. Daddy needs a new pair of waterblocks haha. Instead of showing you guys shopping carts from newegg, sidewinder and ppcs, I'll wait until stuff starts rolling in and post pics.

I won a bid for a used 1/2" copper tube bender from fleabay for $40 and tried to track down some 12mm od copper tubing. I ordered some 1/2" x 10' strait tubing from lowes online for $11 and change (and a 1/2" tubing cutter), but when I went to go pick it up, it looked too big, so I measured it with a tape measure and it was 5/8" (1/2" id) so I walked back to the plumbing section, the only strait lengths (in 1/2" od) were 2' for $15! I bought a 20' roll for $45 but I dont know if I'll be able to straighten it out enough for my liking so I have a sneaky suspicion that I'll be taking it back to the store. Hopefully I'll have some luck at a plumbing supply store, because home depot was telling the same story.

I did find some 12mm x 2' lengths of pyrex glass tubing though, so I'm thinking that could be a neat option depending on how strong it is. It's much cheaper than the copper and would look pretty damn cool I think. I can get 12 pieces of 12mm x 2' tubes for $25 + shipping which will come to about $1.50 per foot. At that cost, I wouldn't mind messing up a few pieces. I have access to a pretty good size torch at my work, and have a small map gas one here that may be good enough, I'm not sure. It may be worth a shot as I think it could be cool, depending on how strong it is. I wouldn't want to be moving the computer aroung very much with thin walled glass tubing full of water inside... so I'm going to try and find some 12mm strait copper tubing first lol.
Edited by bob808 - 4/6/12 at 7:07pm
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Nice! I always liked Cougar Fans, they don't get enough praise. Did I read this right? Copper bender? Sweet! Will you be polishing them or plating them? Are you going for the tarnish look?

This is getting very interesting!thumb.gif
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I had a grumble in one of my Xigmateks as well - solved with a single drop of marvel oil in the bearing thumb.gif.

As far as the pyrex, it is quite strong. The only issue I would see it that it doesn't flex. The copper will give a little bit as you tighten everything down, but the glass won't. As long as you get your bends perfect, you should be good as far as durability. In addition, you can also blow bubbles in certain areas to increase the water volume.

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Blowing bubbles (yes, it is a tutorial for a water pipe, but the technique is the same.)
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i like the copper idea, and my cougar fans do exceptionally well!!
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What about acrylic tubing? It might be easier to work with than glass.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22752&catid=440

I was going to go this route until I saw the prices on the crystal link connectors.
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What about acrylic tubing? It might be easier to work with than glass.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22752&catid=440

Thats an opton too, but I think I would try the pyrex first as I have some experience working with glass. I used to do stained glass in high school and haveme bent glass in a kiln, and have done some glass blowing so I think I could pull it off as long as I can get enough heat from the torch at work.

I did manage to track down some 1/2" OD straight copper tubing from Ferguson Plumbing suppply. They are bring me down a 20' length that cost $1.50 a foot (same as the pyrex) which is less than the coiled copper tubing that I bought from Lowes, so I will be returning that today, if I get off work in tima lol.

The 20' length will be in tomorrow so thats cool. I was thinking about either polishing the copper and clear coating it to help preventing it from getting tarnished. OR if it turns out really well, I would consider having it silver electroplated to eliminate the need for a kill coil. That would be the best imo but I have no idea how much that would cost.

I still think the pyrex would be cool, and if I went that route, I would maybe use that orange coolant that you showed early in this thread. It would be sick. I don't think I have ever seen a watercooling loop using glass tubing-
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I was going to go this route until I saw the prices on the crystal link connectors.

sidewinder computers has then for $4.00 a piece for the larger type with 2 o-rings and $3.25 for the shorter ones with a single o-ring
Here's a link for all of them- http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/slifittings.html
Well, I guess I should get back to work now haha, Im typing on my boss's laptop in the office rolleyes.gif
Edited by bob808 - 4/2/12 at 12:02pm
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What about acrylic tubing? It might be easier to work with than glass.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22752&catid=440

Thats an opton too, but I think I would try the pyrex first as I have some experience working with glass. I used to do stained glass in high school and haveme bent glass in a kiln, and have done some glass blowing so I think I could pull it off as long as I can get enough heat from the torch at work.

I did manage to track down some 1/2" OD straight copper tubing from Ferguson Plumbing suppply. They are bring me down a 20' length that cost $1.50 a foot (same as the pyrex) which is less than the coiled copper tubing that I bought from Lowes, so I will be returning that today, if I get off work in tima lol.

The 20' length will be in tomorrow so thats cool. I was thinking about either polishing the copper and clear coating it to help preventing it from getting tarnished. OR if it turns out really well, I would consider having it silver electroplated to eliminate the need for a kill coil. That would be the best imo but I have no idea how much that would cost.

I still think the pyrex would be cool, and if I went that route, I would maybe use that orange coolant that you showed early in this thread. It would be sick. I don't think I have ever seen a watercooling loop using glass tubing-
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I was going to go this route until I saw the prices on the crystal link connectors.

sidewinder computers has then for $4.00 a piece for the larger type with 2 o-rings and $3.25 for the shorter ones with a single o-ring
Here's a link for all of them- http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/slifittings.html
Well, I guess I should get back to work now haha, Im typing on my boss's laptop in the office rolleyes.gif

Killer!! I'm doing this!! And if the acrylic doesn't work out, then I can always go copper. thumb.gif + Rep You just made my day, plus they have black wheee.gif
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