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I picked up my straight copper pipe from Fergusons today. It was 20 feet long, but no worries, I has my little cutter that I bought from lowes that says if for 1/2" pipe. so I take the cutter out of the package and give it a try. It is too big, as plumbers are weird when it comes to measurements.

One of the employees at the store was nice enough to cut the pipe in half for me so I could throw it into the back of my pickup. Anyway, back to plumbers being wack- They measure the pipe by the size of the hole in the tube, not the outside diameter. So you could have some some 5/8 outside diameter pipe with a wall thinkness of 1/16" and they would call it 1/2" tubing.

So needless to say, I returned the pipe cutter and the coiled copper tubing to lowes and bought the right size cutter (3/8") and also bought a tubing bender (3/8"). Now that means that the tubing bender that I bought used off of ebay is too big and is for 5/8" outer diameter pipe. I'll just put it back up for sale-

I'm just waiting on packages to arrive now.
Newegg coming this Thursday, ppcs and sidewinder coming next Tuesday, so probbaly not to much in that way of updates for the next week.

Edit: I guess they use outer diameter measurement for the pipe bender, because the pipe I have says 3/8" and measures 1/2 (OD), and the bender I bought from Lowes says it's for 3/8" pipe, but it's not big enough lol. Wacky plumbers- Looks like another trip to the hardware store. That's ok, I think I will get a bit heavier duty pipe cutter while I'm there. The little one I got works, but it's not very easy to use, and 1/2" is its max pipe thickness.

Looks like the bender I bought from ebay is the one I need after all (I hope haha)
Edited by bob808 - 4/3/12 at 8:32pm
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I cannot wait to see the outcome of this! Are you going to have the copper pipes plated or going for the tarnish look?
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I would go with polished tubing and clear coat it to help prevent tarnish.
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Hey Bob let me give some info as i am using the Pyrex in my build and res... and I'm not sure if you have your fittings yet....

Those BitsPower fittings will ONLY work with 12mm od tube Max OD for the fittings as I have measured them is 12.2mm. Thats it... unless you have a way to shrink down the end of the copper it isn't going to fit. And 3/8" OD will be too small... That's ultimately why I went with the pyrex for my build...
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Hope i didnt just rain on your parade but I saw you throwing inch measurements around and I wanted to step in and let you know what I have already learned. thumb.gif
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I would go with polished tubing and clear coat it to help prevent tarnish.

Do you know how effective this "clear coat" really is? How long does it last before it starts to tarnish again? Is it done professionally?
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I cannot wait to see the outcome of this! Are you going to have the copper pipes plated or going for the tarnish look?

only time will tell- Definately not going for the tarnished look. Silver-plated would be awsome and useful, but I'm not sure of the cost, and I would only pay if the tubing and bends turned out perfect.
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I would go with polished tubing and clear coat it to help prevent tarnish.

Yeah, I'm leaning in this direction.
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Hey Bob let me give some info as i am using the Pyrex in my build and res... and I'm not sure if you have your fittings yet....
Those BitsPower fittings will ONLY work with 12mm od tube Max OD for the fittings as I have measured them is 12.2mm. Thats it... unless you have a way to shrink down the end of the copper it isn't going to fit. And 3/8" OD will be too small... That's ultimately why I went with the pyrex for my build...

Hope i didnt just rain on your parade but I saw you throwing inch measurements around and I wanted to step in and let you know what I have already learned. thumb.gif

Yeah, I tried to order some 12mm outer diameter tubing but the guy at the plumbing supply store looked at me like I was un-american lol. The tubing I bought is stamped with 3/8" but when I measure it, it looks to me to come up an RCH short of 1/2" outer diameter, and seeing that 12.2mm comverts to just over .48" . I do not have a nice digital caliper, but were talking about two one-hundreds of an inch here (or less if my eye isn't lying to me) so I will just have to wait and see. I could always thin down the part of the tubing that goes into the fitting by sanding it a little bit if I had to, but here's to hoping I wont have to cheers.gif

+rep for the useful info even though I already knew of the discrepency.
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Do you know how effective this "clear coat" really is? How long does it last before it starts to tarnish again? Is it done professionally?

Copper gets tarnished by oxidation, caused by exposure to air, chemicals, and/or dirt & oils. The purpose of the clear coat (clear paint) is to seal out these impurities and should help a great deal. It would be important to wear plastic gloves when handling the copper during/after polishing to eliminate oil/grease from transferring from your fingers to the copper before the clear-coat.

The alternative is to annually clean your copper with a metal polish like Brasso or Barkeepers friend, or even just a vinigar/water solution.
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Exactly. Once polished, you would wipe it down with some IPA or equivalent solvent (while wearing gloves) and go straight to an automotive type clear. This has been the most effective in the past for me.
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Thanks for the tip Badwrench- So much useful knowledge to be had here on OCN thanks to members like you. thumb.gif

Well I have made a decision regarding the fans. I'm going to keep the Xigmateks in the top (because they look so damn good up there) and use the cougars everywhere else (because they work so well). The cougar orange does not match the build but the blades pop right off easily, so I am going to paint them to match and be done with it. The only thing that still wont match are the anti-vibration pads, and I could always just peel them off, but I dont think they're that big of deal either way.

Looks like I am going to be transferring my motherboard into this case as I have not heard anything from Lane since he said that he had to back out of the project and that I could keep the case and psu, two weeks ago. I feel bad for him and his financial situation, and that he is out over $500 for the case and psu, but if he ever wants my help in the future, I will be there for him. Also I have a gut feeling that he really wants to do his own work, instead of having it done for him.
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Yeah, I tried to order some 12mm outer diameter tubing but the guy at the plumbing supply store looked at me like I was un-american lol. The tubing I bought is stamped with 3/8" but when I measure it, it looks to me to come up an RCH short of 1/2" outer diameter, and seeing that 12.2mm comverts to just over .48" . I do not have a nice digital caliper, but were talking about two one-hundreds of an inch here (or less if my eye isn't lying to me) so I will just have to wait and see. I could always thin down the part of the tubing that goes into the fitting by sanding it a little bit if I had to, but here's to hoping I wont have to cheers.gif
+rep for the useful info even though I already knew of the discrepency.

Cool dude, was just being on the safe side and offering what I knew. I'm sure most around here are as anal as me when it comes to doing research before committing to something. thumb.gif
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Little update today, my latest order from newegg arrived today containing 10 cougar fans (6x140mm and 4x120mm) and a NZXT 2 meter orange led light string.

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I popped out the fan blades and I am going to tape off the magnets and little spindle, and paint them Hemi orange so they match the color of the case. I may paint a couple of them white, but I doubt it. I have to think about it a bit more.

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Oh and a couple photos that I forgot to uplaod earlier when I was installing the 360 rad up top.
There were a couple tabs in the way, preventing the rad from sitting flush with the top of the case. These tabs apparently hold up the front half of the front most fan, so you dont have to use screws up front or something.

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I just bent them back and forth with a pair of pliers until they broke off-

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Then when I put the radiator up to the top of the case, I noticed that the 120mm pre-made fan mounting holes didn't quite line up, and I had to enlarge them using my rotary tool with a little diamond bit.

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Time to tape off the fan blades now.
More to come and thanks for your comments!
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