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1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip, with very large hands
2. What's your sensitivity?
I can get used to a new one if I need to, but I use 1500 CPI(DPI) right now
3. What's your maximum budget?
Doesn't matter
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Doesn't matter
5. What games do you play?
RTS, FPS
6. Do you mind about prediction?
I do not want any prediction, just raw mouse input.
7. Other relevant information:
Input anything else you want.
some examples:
LOD?
As low as possible honestly, Xai has it just right
Ambidextrous shape?
Yes, with fingertip grip that is all that is really comfy
Weight?
As light as possible, Xai weighs 98g and feels pretty good. Lighter is always welcome though!
Wireless?
Absolutely not, for a gaming mouse one of the worst things you can do IMO.
Acceleration?
No, but I have heard that the Xai has some positive acceleration. I have used it for a long time now but I never noticed any acceleration. Just posting here to see what is recommended for me to buy. If you think I should just stick with the Xai that is fine too!
Non-braided cord?
Never saw the functionality one way or the other honestly. The braided cord does make me feel like I am buying something fancy though.
Glossy finish?
Not sure, never had one with a glossy finish. Just had a G500 and my Xai, I really like the rubber coating on the Xai, but the G500 was very good as well and it was smooth plastic on top.
Button activation force?
Xai feels a little heavy to press, heard that the Sensei was different for the main 2 mouse buttons, but I am not dropping $100 on another mouse unless I am absolutely sure it is worth it. (probably not since I already have a Xai)
Driverless?
Doesn't matter to me
Onboard memory?
also does not matter
Optical of Laser?
I do not care which. I would like the best sensor out there. Whether that is an optical one or a laser one then so be it. I have always used a laser sensor (Xai, G500) and once I tried the DABE I absolutely LOVED how the sensor felt, I just could not stand the shape of the mouse and the ridiculously high LOD. So maybe I would like a high grade Optical sensor instead of a laser.

I use a hard plastic mouse pad (I can move to cloth if I need to, they both have their ups and downs and I am thinking of getting something a little bigger) and I have very large hands, so a bigger mouse is what I am looking for. Bigger means heavier, but if there is a big mouse that is very light I will be all over that!

Just looking to see what people recommend honestly. I do not plan to buy a new one for a while (unless it is literally perfect) but I want to see what other mice are out there that I am unaware of. Really only ever had a Xai, G500, and I used a Deathadder for a little while but it was not mine and the shape was very uncomfortable for me. The sensor on the DA was PERFECT, but the LOD was also WAY too high for me to even consider it.

Thanks for any recommendations of course!


TL;DR
The absolute most perfect mouse for me to have would be one with a perfect sensor (does not have any prediction/angle-snapping, no acceleration, LOD of about 1CD or less), ambidextrous shape like the Xai, the mouse buttons are a little easier to press than the Xai (not a big deal at all, but would be nice), and as light as possible. Basically, I want a lighter Xai with a Deathadder sensor that has a 1CD LOD or less. The only catch is that I need it to be able to go from a low DPI for FPS (600ish, not too picky, I can get used to a new one easily) to around 1500DPI or so for using the OS and for RTS games (I HATE slow mouse pointers).



Lastly, I have been looking at the Zowie AM, what do you think? I saw the review here and the jitter at 2300 has me a little worried since I might be using that setting for RTS and OS navigation. Obviously jitter is not good, but I have heard of some jitter problems being fixed with a firmware update down the line. Since it has different mouse button switches I figure they might be a little lighter to press but I have never tested one out.

If you have had a Zowie AM and a Xai, how much smaller is the Zowie compared to the Xai? It seems like it is barely noticeable and probably much more comfortable.

One last question! What is the difference/why would I get a Zowie AM over the EC1 and EC2? What is the difference between the EC1 and EC2? I checked their site and they don't really have a difference in the specs but I figured there is one somewhere since they are different names.

Sorry for the epic wall of text, but I will be very grateful to anyone who is really knowledgeable about mice helping me out (preferably those who play competitive FPS since they always seem to have the best mouse info). smile.gif

If you want me to explain anything more just ask, I have typed enough for 3 posts by now. tongue.gif
Edited by hfcobra - 2/8/12 at 10:31pm
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The jitter problem at 2300dpi is not THAT bad and judging from what you want in a mouse i think the zowie am would be just perfect for you. Just make sure you don't mind the buttons being somewhat hard to press
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I have had the zowie for 2 weeks now and its a okay mouse in BF3 and MW3. Very comfortable and light weight but in terms of over all features I would go with the Deathadder over it. Just my opinion though. Shoot down to your local frys/bestbuy and check one out thumb.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post

The jitter problem at 2300dpi is not THAT bad and judging from what you want in a mouse i think the zowie am would be just perfect for you. Just make sure you don't mind the buttons being somewhat hard to press

Thanks for the answer, but how much smaller does the AM feel compared to the Sensei that you have? I see a lot of people complaining that it is too small in your review thread. I am not too worried about that but I just want to ask. smile.gif

@shineon2011

What does the DA offer over the AM? I tried out the Black Edition a while ago and while the sensor was magical, the LOD was far too high for me and the mouse is very uncomfortable for me as well. :/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfcobra View Post

Thanks for the answer, but how much smaller does the AM feel compared to the Sensei that you have? I see a lot of people complaining that it is too small in your review thread. I am not too worried about that but I just want to ask. smile.gif
@shineon2011
What does the DA offer over the AM? I tried out the Black Edition a while ago and while the sensor was magical, the LOD was far too high for me and the mouse is very uncomfortable for me as well. :/

It feels much lighter and less wide but similar in length and height. Although they are very similar in shape it feels different and not so easy to palmgrip as the xai/sensei because of the / \ shape
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Zowie AM's switches are hard abit to press which is fine in FPS games. But if you will play some RTS with tons of clicking it might start to be a problem after some time. LOD is too low in my opinion on AM and scroll sucks hard on it. / \ shape isn't for everyone either.
I can recommend either Logitech G400 or Deathadder. DA is massive mouse and it's shape wasn't too comfortable for me. If you have really big hands it might be ok. G400 is abit smaller mouse with same quality as DA. I prefer G400. Just pick the shape.
Edited by theo87 - 2/9/12 at 12:49am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post

It feels much lighter and less wide but similar in length and height. Although they are very similar in shape it feels different and not so easy to palmgrip as the xai/sensei because of the / \ shape
Alright well I will try it out and just send it back if I do not like the mouse. smile.gif Thanks for the replies!
Quote:
Originally Posted by inox View Post

Zowie AM's switches are hard abit to press which is fine in FPS games. But if you will play some RTS with tons of clicking it might start to be a problem after some time. LOD is too low in my opinion on AM and scroll sucks hard on it. / \ shape isn't for everyone either.
I can recommend either Logitech G400 or Deathadder. DA is massive mouse and it's shape wasn't too comfortable for me. If you have really big hands it might be ok. G400 is abit smaller mouse with same quality as DA. I prefer G400. Just pick the shape.

The whole reason I am asking about this mouse is because I do not like the shape of the deathadder or the G400. Once I tried out a Xai I knew that it was the best shape for me. tongue.gif

I think I will pick one up and try it out for a little while and see how I like it. I don't think that I will go past the perfect control speed (honestly, I don't know how people can. 2.7m/s is about 6mph!) so it is a great mouse for me. smile.gif
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Sorry for the double post, but just to be sure.


What settings for the mouse will make sure that it has the highest perfect control speed possible? I plan to use 450 for FPS and I have not decided between the 1150 or 2300 DPI for my OS/RTS yet, but I do not think that playing at that high of a sense will matter at all for perfect control.

Which raises another question, what settings will have the least jitter for the 1150 DPI setting and the 2300 DPI setting? I know the 2300 setting had slightly more jitter, but did it have less on 500Hz polling or less with 1000Hz polling?

What is the difference and how could anyone tell 500Hz from 1000Hz when your monitor only displays at 60Hz? (or if you have a fancy LCD, 120 HZ) (OR if you are still rocking a CRT for the high refresh rate, 500Hz.)
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